With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

This sounds really sarcastic.

And if it isn't I doubt your hopes would be fulfilled.

There's probably not a lot the demons could do to the Endless

 

No, I think that's correct.

Thank you, corrected.

 

Wonder Woman’s weakness is that Truth is a fundamental aspect of her nature, and this demonic state is, with regard to the Truth of her Self, a massive deception. Exploiting that would require a modicum of empathy, though, and between Paul and the Nazis the only source of that is a superpower that the former won't think to flip the switch for.

 

figured it was WW, but somewhere in hypertime I like to think it was a demonic Ma Hunkel who now lives up to the moniker "Red Tornado."

Aresia was apparently magically given Amazon powers just less than WW's upon being adopted into the tribe and Aresia knew enough alchemy and/or biotechnology to create a biotoxin capable of killing every man on the planet.

Which certainly implies that the only reason the Earth in JLU doesn't run under the Pax Amazonia is that WW's mother doesn't feel like ruling the entire planet.

 

I can infer what you are saying and I agree. But what is the meaning of the word "Pax"?

 

If I recall correctly, she was only able to do that by reading science books, which are illegal on Themyscira for fear of tainting the Amazons' minds.

 

Pax is a Latin word that means a couple of thing based on context, but it basically boils down to either 'peace' or 'person/persons', though that second one is mainly used in more commercial settings according to google.

 

I was basing that on "Pax Romana" the Roman golden age of "sustained Roman imperialism, order, prosperous stability, hegemonial power and expansion" as wikipedia describes it.

There was also a Pax Britannica and a Pax Americana.

So basically a shorthand for these people dominate through hard and/or soft power.

Nazi world would be under "Pax Germanica," for example.

 

Exactly what is stopping everyone else in JLU earth from completely destroying themesira once they declare they are the culprits of the largest terrorist attack and genocide in history?

Are the rest of the women in the world just going to fall in line after their sons, bothers and fathers were murdered?

The only logical result of such an attack is the Amazon culture being utterly destroyed in reprisal and I doubt their weakened God's are going to provide enough defense against the entire planet including other nations with access to powerful magicians and other gods.

There is no Pax Amazonia in a universe that operates under the rules of logic, they are too insignificant to matter without continental amounts of handwavium.

 

''is frozen'

'raises'

'railgun and fire a mage'

'probably be in a'

Or the magic of Demon Earth is different enough compared to Earth 16 that it can resist it.

'fires as green'

 

I feel like giving those chains to Donner last chapter would have maybe been a better tactic. Unless it's intentional because of Paragon not fully committing to his alliance, as shown by his internal narration last time.

 

Like I said yesterday: Instant hypothermia. Danner vitality can handle a lot ('resistant to bursting shells' and all that) but being slammed all at once by temperatures well below the freezing point of human flesh will tax even that. Even if she's not dead, she's out of this fight.

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Ah, the joy of Lantern multi-tasking. Healing one ally while trying to protect another. Let's see the Nazi Green Lantern manage that.

See, this is why guys like Iron Man have chest-mounted weaponry. No need to risk letting go of someone to take a zero-range shot.

Heh, that moment of surprise. Like 'What the hell was that?!'.

At least now he's not in danger of getting pounded into a mud-hole... For the moment.

Good to see Donner will live. But right now, she's a liability that Wonder Woman-Hell will target if she thinks it'll give her an advantage... The challenge would be getting her clear, though...

Heh, literally boxing her in. A pity she's only slowed down by them a little, at worst.

Probably disappointed he doesn't get to try and kill OL... Yet.

Which is worrying. Usually, that's a sign of something being actively or divinely empowered...

Which means either lots of brute force - not really an option without someone stronger and faster than her - or cheap trickery. I think we can guess which OL prefers.

Well, try aiming. Surely your targetting system is better than just point-and-shoot?

Good thing you have a nice, big, green distraction right there...

Or, y'know, let OL copy your guns and let him fire half-a-dozen at once... Seriously, she can't block everything at once, surely. On the other hand, he's probably sandbagging to avoid giving too much away.

Kryptonite Man and Socialist Red Guardsman, for reference. Both of whom emit radiation from their altered bodily tissues. The difference being that the former can choose not to release radiation (I think?)

Heh, sneaky sneaky.

Been a while since we've seen him use a trick that simple. Then again, a lot of his recent fights have involved fliers, or taken place in space, where filaments are harder to conceal like that.

Om-nom-nom-nom!

And that's probably the most effect they've had during the whole fight... Seriously, Wonder Woman-1 OP, pls nerf.

...Excellent. [/Burns] Now to see what happens.

...Okay, that was... Not unexpected, but rather sudden.

Hold it, cowboy. I don't know if shooting prisoners is a common thing around here, but...

...The lady is more valuable alive. Admittedly, she may not be in the most talkative state, but still. Also: Cultist guy, seriously? They just took down Wonder Woman. You think an RPG round will do anything? Talk about cocky.

Still no sign of Superman or the Kants. Odd that they haven't made contact yet. Maybe they didn't make it through this one?

Ah, OL. Always prepared.

...Just be sure to reclaim that before you leave. Don't want the Nazis keeping any of that. Especially the spell-binding chains. They might not be able to reproduce the magic, but I would not put it past them to devise a technological equivalent somehow.

Also something you may want to make sure they don't keep. Then again, they might have something almost as good from the Kryptonian tech tree...

Surprisingly easy once they worked out how to stop her. Though I don't doubt that Herr Fledermaus was paying close attention to how OL fought... Now for the rest of the cultists, and their portal. Assuming that the Kryptonian trio did come through in this group, I suppose they're laying low just in case. If they didn't, it'll be interesting to see why...

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Double Space.

 

He may have thought that they'd be weakened enough that it could work.

True, Kryptonians were incredibly advanced.

And even if what they have has lower healing abilities, it may still be better than a Purple Ray since Zoat apparently made them magical in the story, so they don't function at full power outside of a magic environment, but the Kryptonian stuff would he pure tech so it should function everywhere.

 

When Paul gave Donner the Purple healing ray my first thought was "Oh god the Nazis are gonna turn it into a Death Ray!"

 

Unless it's different on Earth 10, they should already have access to that technology/magitech.

 

Wouldn't Baroness Whatshername develop the tech normally in the reality where Third Reich won?

 

Those are intentional.

Thank you, corrected.

You could argue that, but Ms. Brauer isn't much faster than a normal person. It wouldn't be much easier for her to get them on.

He was talking about Ms. Brauer. He's not a nice person or anything but she's a colleague.

Thank you, corrected.

 

Mr Zoat, Irritation is no longer linked to the story part.

 

Because of Overman Earth-10 has focused specifically on studying and developing Kryptonian technology.

Magic is looked down upon remember what the doctor said earlier no one in the Third Reich takes it seriously.

 

Thank you, updated.

 

It.

Not sure if this should be taking or tanking considering the context.

 

Thank you, corrected.

I meant it to be 'taking', as that does less to imply that doing so is a reasonable move.

 

You haven't really updated your gear in two years, so you shouldn't be surprised when things advance past your abilities.

 

I wonder if Dream ever escaped on Earth 10.

 

Well, her dying would have given him a good reason to take the shot. I could see him rationalising it that way somehow...

 

Where did you get the silly idea I was suggesting Aresia's terrorism was the path to Pax Amazonia?

As I specifically pointed out in the message you quoted, Amazons can recruit. Zoat had the Donner enhanciles conquer a good chunk of modern South America with an inferior ability that requires popping out babies and waiting over a decade for them to mature.

And the Amazons could have done this at any point in the last three thousand years plus.

You think Medieval Europe would have been able to do shit to an army of effectively demigods?

If Hippolyta wanted to rule the world the Pax Amazonia would be celebrating a multi-millennium anniversary.

 

You forgot to mention the fact that they were also taught powerful plant magic by a superpowerful dryad, who may just be a full blown goddess now.

And the fact that the Sheeda damaged Brazil and South America enough for the Accala to take over.

 

They didn't do such a thing, they took over after the blue people from the future destroyed Latin America and they had the help of Euante a very powerful green elemental demi goddess that got super charged by the bark of the tree of the garden of eden.

IE the Accala didn't conquer shit, they just took over after the Sheeda destroyed the local governments.

Second the Amazons had to flee the main land because they were getting destroyed in battle and the handful of demi goddess they had weren't capable of making a difference.

Of course then centuries later Hercules went and raped a lot of them and that drastically increased the number of demi goddesses in their ranks, but by that point they were too scared to do anything with the outside world and were too afraid of dying without the blessings of their island.


They would have to drastically change culturally to decide to leave their little island and if they had tried to come out they would have eventually gotten flattened by someone.

 

I remember Mr Zoat saying that in this story, they left for Themyscira because the gods told them to do so. It's possible that not obeying that order would have had major consequences