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Exalted 3E Discussion

Discussion in 'General' started by Smuthunter, Feb 4, 2015.

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  1. Heaven Canceler

    Heaven Canceler Behind You!

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    Hmmm.. you know that makes me wonder.. If I understand it right, the important part for an Exaltation is the Soul Anatomy, right? You gotta have a Soul that is still human and all that.

    So what happens if you stick a to-be Exalted person's soul into a dog/cat/bear/monkey etc... ? Can they still Exalt?
     
  2. Imabot

    Imabot Well worn.

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    I don't think such creature could exalt. Soul is made out of two parts. Lower soul that animals possess but sapient beings also have a higer soul. So putting someone soul into animal body that already have a different soul is like severing human in half and trying to attach his torso to a decapitated horse in hope you get a centaur.

    I think closest you get to exalting such being is if it turns into a Liminal exalted.
     
  3. UrsaTempest

    UrsaTempest Fanatical Yuri Bear (and Archivist)

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    also, even if they can still exalt, most Exalted charms assume human physical form as layout. there's a case of Solar that turn herself into tentacle monster and need to learn Infernal charms because her native charms can't be used with her new limbs.
     
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  4. Sydonai

    Sydonai I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    The non-humanoid form counts as "mutations" and are burned away. leaving behind a "close enough" approximation.
    Although IIRC this can only happen during exaltation, mutations or body-shifting that happen after exaltation can screw an exalt over.
    I think it might work under the situation of a human that has been transformed into an animal form, if their soul is still intact.
     
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  5. mrttao

    mrttao Connoisseur.

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    Do the normal charms for inducting "mortals" into martial arts explicitly state that the mortal must be human?
    Do they actually? I am told that in exalted missing both eyes or both hands for example gives a trivial penalty to an exalt. And then there are charms specifically to work around it that end up giving a net bonus instead of just removing the malus
     
  6. Bre Karn

    Bre Karn (Very Slow) Writer of Glorious Smut

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    I don't even remember which Ex3 charms let do that! o_O
     
  7. mrttao

    mrttao Connoisseur.

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    can't you just use Tiger Warrior Training?

    http://exaltedpast.wikidot.com/charm:tigerwarriortrainingtechnique
    wait, is that the 3e or 2e version?
     
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    Nekraa Nekraa Moderator

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  9. mrttao

    mrttao Connoisseur.

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  10. Sydonai

    Sydonai I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Nekraa Nekraa Moderator

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  12. Sydonai

    Sydonai I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Who stop being "mortal" the instant they get initiated.
    For some inane reason.
     
  13. Nekraa

    Nekraa Nekraa Moderator

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    Because they're more than mortal :v
     
  14. Bre Karn

    Bre Karn (Very Slow) Writer of Glorious Smut

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    Don't they remain 'mortal' sorcerers who can't access the extra functions of spells that consume actual non-sorcerous motes?
     
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  15. Nekraa

    Nekraa Nekraa Moderator

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    The whole "no longer mortal" thing is IIRC from some developer response rather than something in the book.

    But yes, a mortal who becomes a sorcerer doesn't get an essence pool. Thus they can't benefit from some spells that has that as a requirement for some parts. Like how Invulnerable Skin of Bronze has "In addition, characters with an Essence pool gain access
    to the following powers while this spell is active:" for the three "powers" it grants in addition to the bronze transformation. Nor can they learn Martial Arts charms or attune artifacts.
     
  16. Bre Karn

    Bre Karn (Very Slow) Writer of Glorious Smut

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    The way they handled Thaumaturgy and Martial Arts was criminal, IMHO. Sorcery is sweet, but they deserved better. *sigh*
     
  17. mrttao

    mrttao Connoisseur.

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    what are they called?
     
  18. Sydonai

    Sydonai I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    "Sorcerers", because the Devs didn't bother to come up with a catch-all term for ex-Mortals.
     
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  19. tehelgee

    tehelgee The stern gaze of justice. Administrator

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    Lunar Kickstarter is ending. Get in within the next 3 days, if you want in on it.

    Bit salty at the update revealed today. Lilith's background. Desus is gone entirely, Lilith is no longer the postergirl for being victimized by Solar Social bullshit. Instead, she went the Leviathan route and turned into her totem form for a few thousand years out of heartbreak. How utterly boring.
     
  20. Bre Karn

    Bre Karn (Very Slow) Writer of Glorious Smut

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    The way it is going, I guess we won't get Sublime Danger and her martial art in Many-Faced Strangers.
     
  21. Drak4806

    Drak4806 Experienced.

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    Are you really surprised considering what the rest of 3e is like?
     
  22. Bre Karn

    Bre Karn (Very Slow) Writer of Glorious Smut

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    Yeah, starting with the misandrist Realm, the SJW pandering shit is really starting to sour me on the fluff aspects of 3E just like Charm bloat and dice tricks on the mechanical side.
     
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  23. Jarudazuigu

    Jarudazuigu Sealed, for now

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    They really tried to repeat the "success" of 4th edition of D&D? While misandrist Realm ... if you squint your eyes and ignore that there is little practical difference between genders of Dragon-Blooded as far as their combat potential go, I am curious what kind of retarded reason behind such misandry exists?
     
  24. Drak4806

    Drak4806 Experienced.

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    Since the book was written by different people it's a little bit inconsistent. So about 90% to 95% of the stuff about the Realm emphasizes how men are essentially blocked from any real authority position then there's also cultural and social stuff that also discriminates against men. Then the other % of stuff about the Realm has the male leader of Cathak be a serious contender to replace the Empress and then stuff about Ragara which all seems extremely inconsistent with the rest of sections on the realm.
     
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  25. mrttao

    mrttao Connoisseur.

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    But doesn't sorcerers also apply to exalted who know sorcery?
     
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  26. Megaolix

    Megaolix Moderator

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    Guys? Careful with Rule 8 please?
     
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  27. tehelgee

    tehelgee The stern gaze of justice. Administrator

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    Not really, no. Exalted are Exalted, sorcery or not.
     
  28. mrttao

    mrttao Connoisseur.

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    I didn't say they stop being exalted. Not all exalted are sorcerers though, they have to undergo a process to be initiated into sorcery. An exalt who learned sorcery can be described as being a "sorcerer".
     
  29. tehelgee

    tehelgee The stern gaze of justice. Administrator

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    I meant, their status as Exalted trumps their status as sorcerers. It's their status as Chosen that will get mentioned first, even if you ask who knows Sorcery in the area. Even for Dragon-Blooded Exalts.

    In my view, calling someone a sorcerer means that's their primary focus and ability. Appropriate, for mortal sorcerers. For Exalted, their Charms are more defining than their Sorcery is, if they even know Sorcery.
     
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  30. backtoback

    backtoback Making the rounds.

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    Most 'Enlightened' Mortals are unique one offs like Mist or that pirate with a sword made from her tears, or they got some Spirit blood in them or something.

    Sorcerers are not considered 'mortal' in mostly the same way

    Also we got Sublime Danger and her Thousand-Blades style, shame we didn't get the devs extra pay.
     
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