On Ruby's Rival
AJ_Talon
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RWBY was inspired by shonen anime and JRPGs. And a classic part of the genre is a rival for the main character. Cloud has Sephiroth. Naruto has Gaara, Sasuke, etc. Goku has Vegeta, then Freeza, then Hit, etc. And so on.
So it's odd that Ruby doesn't actually have one.
"But Talon you man child obsessed with an animated webshow!" You might say, "Of course Ruby has a rival! She has Cinder! And Salem!"
No. For there to be a rival there needs to be some kind of personal investment, as well as a heavy juxtaposition between their worldviews, personalities, and philosophies. As well as a driving element of change in the story.
Yeah Cinder set up Vytal and killed Pyrrha, but everyone has a grudge against her for that. And we never saw Ruby and Pyrrha interact in any meaningful way before she died. If anything, Cinder is Jaune's rival. Their fight is VERY personal, for both of them. It's why Jaune trains so hard, pushes himself so hard, to stop Cinder. To avenge Pyrrha and stop Cinder. It DRIVES Jaune's character growth.
Ruby? Doesn't really have that with Cinder. She's another bad guy to stop. Yes, a big one, but there's nothing that multiple other characters wouldn't have with her. Ruby doesn't really CHANGE that much to deal with Cinder, not really.
(Which is another issue but bear with me.)
Salem is too impersonal to be Ruby's rival or main enemy. She's the Big Bad. It's not as personal, as visceral, and isn't concrete enough as a driving force.
So I have three ideas.
First? Someone who deceives Ruby during Haven or Atlas. An infiltrator who gets close and hurts Ruby in a very personal way. Neo might fit there, and giving her more to do is always good. She also wants revenge on Ruby for "killing" Roman, which... Doesn't make a lot of sense but you could always fix that up somehow. Neo would also need to rise in importance to Salem and become a more important villain. Problems with this are that Neo is too free spirited and independent. Sure she wants to kill Ruby but the connection is very one-sided and always has been. So this requires the most work to make possible.
Second? Tyrian. He is antithetical to Ruby in every way. She cherishes life, freedom, and takes joy in the everyday. Tyrian is a misanthrope, who worships Salem and only enjoys killing for his goddess. Ruby is being mentored by Ozma/Oscar, Tyrian is guided by Salem. But how to make it personal? Simple: Tyrian killed Ruby's mother, Summer. He reveals this to her during his first attack on RNJR. He gloats over her, makes her feel weak and powerless. This enrages her and pushes her to fight on, to figure out a way to get out, to get stronger. He takes a personal interest in Ruby after she injures him-Slices off his tail. He also changes to some extent interacting with her-Not like a romance, but a good rivalry between characters often brings out new things in both of them. This could work pretty well.
Third? And this is the weirdest one... Summer. Not as a Hound, because that concept was rather... Meh? Rather, Salem did kill Summer... But kept her body. She used her magic to create an artificial soul to power the corpse and made use of her as a weapon. Over time this Summer revenant developed her own feelings and personality, a dark echo of the original. Salem uses her as a weapon against other Silver Eyed Warriors, and to defend her from them. The Red Reaper became a Dark Reaper. Now that Ruby has been revealed as a potential threat, Salem sends Dark Summer after her. But Dark Summer hesitates to kill her, due to some lingering parts of the original Summer. Then it becomes more insidious: Dark Summer begins to appear to Ruby, and Ruby thinks it's a dream. Dark Summer gains Ruby's trust, and reveals herself to be real... Then comes the reveal she is working for Salem. A revenant in thrall to the Dark Witch of the Grimm. You could play with a lot using this concept.
What do you guys think?
So it's odd that Ruby doesn't actually have one.
"But Talon you man child obsessed with an animated webshow!" You might say, "Of course Ruby has a rival! She has Cinder! And Salem!"
No. For there to be a rival there needs to be some kind of personal investment, as well as a heavy juxtaposition between their worldviews, personalities, and philosophies. As well as a driving element of change in the story.
Yeah Cinder set up Vytal and killed Pyrrha, but everyone has a grudge against her for that. And we never saw Ruby and Pyrrha interact in any meaningful way before she died. If anything, Cinder is Jaune's rival. Their fight is VERY personal, for both of them. It's why Jaune trains so hard, pushes himself so hard, to stop Cinder. To avenge Pyrrha and stop Cinder. It DRIVES Jaune's character growth.
Ruby? Doesn't really have that with Cinder. She's another bad guy to stop. Yes, a big one, but there's nothing that multiple other characters wouldn't have with her. Ruby doesn't really CHANGE that much to deal with Cinder, not really.
(Which is another issue but bear with me.)
Salem is too impersonal to be Ruby's rival or main enemy. She's the Big Bad. It's not as personal, as visceral, and isn't concrete enough as a driving force.
So I have three ideas.
First? Someone who deceives Ruby during Haven or Atlas. An infiltrator who gets close and hurts Ruby in a very personal way. Neo might fit there, and giving her more to do is always good. She also wants revenge on Ruby for "killing" Roman, which... Doesn't make a lot of sense but you could always fix that up somehow. Neo would also need to rise in importance to Salem and become a more important villain. Problems with this are that Neo is too free spirited and independent. Sure she wants to kill Ruby but the connection is very one-sided and always has been. So this requires the most work to make possible.
Second? Tyrian. He is antithetical to Ruby in every way. She cherishes life, freedom, and takes joy in the everyday. Tyrian is a misanthrope, who worships Salem and only enjoys killing for his goddess. Ruby is being mentored by Ozma/Oscar, Tyrian is guided by Salem. But how to make it personal? Simple: Tyrian killed Ruby's mother, Summer. He reveals this to her during his first attack on RNJR. He gloats over her, makes her feel weak and powerless. This enrages her and pushes her to fight on, to figure out a way to get out, to get stronger. He takes a personal interest in Ruby after she injures him-Slices off his tail. He also changes to some extent interacting with her-Not like a romance, but a good rivalry between characters often brings out new things in both of them. This could work pretty well.
Third? And this is the weirdest one... Summer. Not as a Hound, because that concept was rather... Meh? Rather, Salem did kill Summer... But kept her body. She used her magic to create an artificial soul to power the corpse and made use of her as a weapon. Over time this Summer revenant developed her own feelings and personality, a dark echo of the original. Salem uses her as a weapon against other Silver Eyed Warriors, and to defend her from them. The Red Reaper became a Dark Reaper. Now that Ruby has been revealed as a potential threat, Salem sends Dark Summer after her. But Dark Summer hesitates to kill her, due to some lingering parts of the original Summer. Then it becomes more insidious: Dark Summer begins to appear to Ruby, and Ruby thinks it's a dream. Dark Summer gains Ruby's trust, and reveals herself to be real... Then comes the reveal she is working for Salem. A revenant in thrall to the Dark Witch of the Grimm. You could play with a lot using this concept.
What do you guys think?