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Video Games General

Discussion in 'General' started by Smuthunter, Mar 25, 2017.

  1. heralding_bubble

    heralding_bubble Dog Pottery

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    And thus I was reminded of Katawa Shoujo.
    I'll try to remember to check this out when I get home, thanks.
     
  2. Lord Invictus

    Lord Invictus Impropérium nulla oblivione eris

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    Okay so 12 hour nap over.

    I was referring to the war in ME3. Not the morning war. Which the quarians entirely initiated and forced the Geth into siding with the reapers-something that Legion says was a difficult choice to make, either that or destruction.

    Regarding the Morning war-it seems to me the quarians realized too late they had goofed and their efforts to solve the problem just further spiraled. You’ll note one of the quarians in the logs says “we need the Geth”-presumably because they were everywhere as labor and integrated into the quarian economy and society-someone described it as waging war on their infrastructure. What happened was tragic, terrible, awful. It wouldn’t have happened if the quarians had not you know-done exactly what the leviathan said organics do-create machines to make their lives easier. Machines that continued to improve and surpass their creators.



    The morning war is a sterling example of what the Catalyst is trying to solve via the harvests.

    It doesn’t matter though if they get their homeworld back and the reapers win. Sure they can park the civilian population on it and then maybe contribute-but the war with the Geth at the time it was initiated was a waste of time, resources and lives.

    Legion states “we will not allow you to decide our fate”-and is desperately pleading for Shepard not to choose the quarians. So he does act with emotion. Wrex throws himself at Shepard to get revenge and because well the Krogan are going extinct so let’s get one last punch in. He’s not acting rationally, he’s broken and filled with rage and despair. Suicidal nihilism. Tali throwing herself at Shepard would have same motivation, “I don’t care anymore, I want him dead”.

    The passivity though-I think gets me more. She sees Legion uploading the code, Shepard says “I’m sorry”-and she just stands there. Yes she’s probably stunned but she doesn’t try to at least jump legion, tackle him? She doesn't draw her pistol and get one shot off at Shepard? Even a perfunctory one?

    Killing Tali in self defense-or to save Legion, would be tragic though. It wouldn’t be something Shepard does casually. If Tali tries to tackle Legion or draws a pistol behind Shepard’s back-and the player is forced to hit renegade interrupts to disarm and kill her-that would sell the gravity of what Shepard is doing. That’s he’s betraying someone and that someone is making a desperate effort to either save their people or getting revenge after their ashes. As opposed to Shepard trying to save tali when she jumps-even if he grabs her successfully, why on earth would she cooperate? He just got her people wiped out.

    I guess what gets me about the scene is Tali stands there, shocked and nearly speechless, she doesn't try to intervene, or make some final attempt at revenge. Even a unsteady shot that misses wildly or a wild knife attack that results in Shepard having to stab her, as she just won't stop.
     
  3. Vagrant

    Vagrant Not too sore, are you?

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    Overwatch is getting crossplay. Been playing PC off and on since 2018 back when it was released as part of the monthly Humble Bundle. I'm aware the various reasons many games don't use it, but surprised crossplay wasn't done sooner for Overwatch.
     
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  4. Amazon Climber

    Amazon Climber Experienced.

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    Because her emotional response was despair rather than rage.
     
  5. Lord Invictus

    Lord Invictus Impropérium nulla oblivione eris

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    The emotions aren’t mutually exclusive.
     
  6. Amazon Climber

    Amazon Climber Experienced.

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    They aren’t mutually inclusive, either. In her case, we’re talking total hopeless despair; she gave up on everything, including fighting, because nothing mattered anymore.
     
  7. vyor

    vyor Oh that's cute

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    I hope for the console user's sake they don't get matched against PC players...
     
  8. Rexis12

    Rexis12 Experienced.

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    How's Overwatch 2 coming along by the by?
     
  9. Melmar

    Melmar Should probly stop sayin' words

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    Today on "Didn't See That One Coming":

    Strategy game but it's Metal Slug.
     
  10. Bear_Mint

    Bear_Mint The LewdBringer

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    If you want that classic Metal Slug action, then check out Mighty Goose on steam. The game at times can be particle vomit, but its fun.
     
  11. Malcolmo

    Malcolmo Insert custom title here

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    As a funny little side story, someone on biz bought the domain for Battlefield2042 on a lark before the company swapped the new battlefield name to it and decided to have it redirect to pol after askin the rest of the board. Link to the biz thread. https://www.battlefield2042.com/ (directs to pol, nsfw)
     
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  12. Melmar

    Melmar Should probly stop sayin' words

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    I mean, I don't hate the idea. If nothing else, it's a pretty good trailer.
     
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  13. Rakdos92

    Rakdos92 Goosh Goosh

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    I foresee a lot of upset parents who demand to know why DICE is directing their poor widdle babbies towards a radical website.
     
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  14. Melmar

    Melmar Should probly stop sayin' words

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    Also
    Eldin Ring trailer.
     
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  15. Malcolmo

    Malcolmo Insert custom title here

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    They should be grateful it was just pol. The other suggestions were lemon party and goatse.
     
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  16. Rakdos92

    Rakdos92 Goosh Goosh

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    /b/ and /d/, I presume?
     
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  17. Malcolmo

    Malcolmo Insert custom title here

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    Nah they literally suggested those two. Though it'd have been funny if they had suggested the b and d.
     
  18. Mistodon

    Mistodon Invading the city of Alexandria

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    Oh, so Elden Ring isn't dead in the water? Guess all we need now are news from these three.

    [​IMG]
     
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  19. Renko

    Renko Demon Lord of the Sixth Heaven ~☆

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    Interesting.

    The aesthetics and designs reminds me of FLCL and Gurren Lagann.

    :cool:
     
  20. Scygnus

    Scygnus Experienced.

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    I backed that. Looks neat.
     
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  21. Lord Invictus

    Lord Invictus Impropérium nulla oblivione eris

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    Thing is-there was like a short window in which she could have intervened. Legion is right in front of her, so is Shepard. Tackle them, knife them, shoot them, whatever. Legion needed at least 25 seconds or so to upload the code.

    Once Shepard said I'm sorry-she ought to have jumped Legion. If not Shepard.
     
  22. Amazon Climber

    Amazon Climber Experienced.

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    So, what you’re saying is that her emotional reaction wasn’t logical enough?
     
  23. Lord Invictus

    Lord Invictus Impropérium nulla oblivione eris

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    I'm saying it was unsatisfyingly passive and inconsistent with other characters who take violent agency when Shepard says "sorry you gotta die" in ME3.

    Is it inconsistent with Tali? I don't think we can say-as yeah that's an extraordinary situation to be in-your people's fate being decided by someone else and that choice being destruction.

    You'd think Tali would die to save her people, even if that meant taking a bullet from Shepard, much less Legion.
     
  24. Amazon Climber

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    I think the despair reaction fits Tali a lot better. She always struck me as someone who’s not really suited to being a combatant; she’s too naive and too nice, and clearly much more competent in a support role. She’s also deeply insecure. Having her completely shut down when the Commander she’s placed her trust in for so long betrays her to exterminate her species works; it’s a poignant ending to her story. Her going berserk and trying a futile charge just wouldn’t feel like the same character. It’d feel shoehorned in.
     
  25. Lord Invictus

    Lord Invictus Impropérium nulla oblivione eris

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    You have a point. It just feels passive when Legion grabs Shepard by the neck and Wrex goes on a suicidal charge.

    Makes me wonder what Shepard thought when he tried to save her. (I mean beyond it being the nice thing to do).

    There's no way she'd cooperate.
     
  26. heralding_bubble

    heralding_bubble Dog Pottery

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    If nothing else, probably reflex from having worked together so long?
     
  27. Lord Invictus

    Lord Invictus Impropérium nulla oblivione eris

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    "So Tali, like your people are extinct and all, and you hate my guts, but we still need you in engineering."
     
  28. DawnGazer

    DawnGazer I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    I was pretty demoralized by FF14 recently. It has a system called Glamour that can save the appearance of a piece of armor or weapon and use it on other armor or weapons.

    This was all I was told, but apparently it also saves the items class and level. Meaning that you can only use some of the armor or weapons some of the time. A Red Mage can't use a Machinist item, not unless that item specifically says so. Meaning most items can't be used with each other.

    After playing for a while, I had my first idea to set up a Glamour and committed to it. I was real hype for it, too. I was going to make my Red Mage look like the most flamboyant and awesome Renaissance era musketeer-looking motherfucker ever. I put it all together but when I activate it, all I see swapped is the earring and only one of the rings, despite both of them being for all classes.

    Despite playing a relatively lot of the game and more or less liking it up to this point, this really killed my interest in the game at the moment. Because part of what was sold to me on this game is that you can change your look however you like which apparently isn't fucking true.
     
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    Scygnus Experienced.

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    ...Goddamnit this game should not look this cool.

    Check out the gameplay trailer too. Moving away from XCOM style, though there's still guns and stuff I guess? Dunno. Rabbid Lumas too wtf.

    I hate this now-franchise because I want to play it but am equally sure it would annoy me to no end.
     
  30. Melmar

    Melmar Should probly stop sayin' words

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    Behold, Final Fantasylvania: Nioh. I guess it's a weird remake of FF 1? Only with if the warrior was Doomguy.
     
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