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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. Citizen

    Citizen Experienced.

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    'than'
     
  2. Chojin Patriarch

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    Hmm. I expect Kalmin considers this foolish attempt a waste of potential. You don't send children to fight a war, you send trained soldiers. He probably recognises this was clearly an attempt to dispose of 'undesirables'... Those too principled or intelligent to do well in Varnathon's regime...

    Yep, definitely those with too much potential, principles or independence to be easily molded...

    Manipulating Qwa-matter being the pinnacle of the Weaponer's art, eh? And since Kalmin was a master amongst masters, he's damn good at the art.

    Yeah, that responsiveness to other's Avarice might be something to watch out for. Would have been nice if he'd had time to get a handle on it, but Kalmin gonna Kalmin.

    Yeah, finding out some angels aren't all goodness and light probably shook up Earth-16's Abrahamic faiths just a bit. At least, those who got all their religious knowledge from television...

    I'll bet that's a convenient euphemism... I expect there's a surge of 'volunteers' for more extreme medical science procedures right now... At leas, since Varnathon come into power..

    Ah, sci-fi projected screens. Lovely stuff. Presumably Kalmin's doing it this way to avoid burning Ring charge. Or the Ring is incompatible with Qwardian internet...

    Heh. Give you one guess as to the makeup of the subjects.

    Yes, I'll bet he took it slowly, so it wouldn't be obvious to people. Most might object to that kind of wastefulness.

    Yup, targetting those he can't control easily. No doubt he fears for his position if someone eager, talented and/or devout comes up through the ranks. Kalmin will almost certainly be offended by this level of pettiness.

    Like any insecure tyrant. Disguising the purge of potential threats in the name of 'Public Order'. Good to see some things are universal (Or trans-universal, if you look at it that way.) ;) He's still an evil arsehole, but it's good to see he's predictable.

    A crony, no doubt. He could see which way the wind was blowing, and set his sails to profit from it...

    Probably with a lot of Rage. Tightly-controlled rage, but rage all the same. After all, it's one more item for the long list of things he plans to chastise Varnathon for.

    Surprised OL isn't more offended by the stupidity and wastefulness. This is one of the the things he's professed to dislike.

    Ah, they assumed he'd be a softer target? Did they not pay attention in history classes, or did they figure he'd gone soft in his dotage? No wonder Kalmin called them 'adequate'. Another option would have been 'Mediocre.'

    This fools aren't even worth killing, then? Perhaps they can make themselves useful in other ways. Distractions. Bait. Cannon Fodder.

    Ooh, burn. Seriously, these kids are amusing in their teenage stupidity.

    You expect them to care about politics that much? And honestly, I doubt any of the councillors will meet your exacting standards.

    I bet it was something embarrassing, like hygiene technician.

    Suuuure. She's got guts, though, lying to someone she knows could casually disintegrate her.

    What's the bet they come back in later guns blazing as he attacks Varnathon? I mean, they'd be little more than a distraction in the fight, but hey... You never know, they might get lucky.

    Or maybe the punks will start an uprising. Something to catch Varnathon's eye and turn it away from Kalmin.

    Ideally percussive correction? After all, you have a hammer and a Qwa-bolt. It's be a shame not to put them to good use.

    Well, then. We're seeing more of Varnathon's colours... And they are yellow. Seeing him get his eventual comeuppance should be nice and satisfying. The more pertinent question is whether Kalmin makes it fast.. or slow. Still, that the hard-liner Q'ardajin would allow him to act so brazenly inefficiently... I have to wonder if it's just cultural apathy or if something else is happening.
     
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  3. Darko

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    Even those who read the scripture may have still been shocked, since while they may know about the darker aspects of angels they may have still thought that was in the past.

    Or he likes using other tech.

    Ehh, Qwardian civilization getting damaged and ruined isn't exactly a bad thing.

    He wasn't exactly opposed to destroying the Citadelians, so if a civilization is a lost cause then he may be more accepting.

    It may not be as satisfying as you think since if he gets taken down then Kalmin or someone he chooses may step in.

    And that person will probably be very devout and want to bring their civilization back to what it was.

    A race of omnicidal maniacs.
     
  4. Khettien

    Khettien Perpetually confused

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    Can someone clarify what this is a reference to, please?
     
  5. Assblaster5000

    Assblaster5000 Know what you're doing yet?

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    While I don't remember the exact context of what Paragon is referencing as it relates to him, a burning cage is a metal cage you put things into to burn them, which in the context of the story and what some others have mentioned was likely used by The Silver City as a form of torture/punishment to those they interacted with directly that were "sinful."
     
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  6. Darko

    Darko Well worn.

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    I think he's thinking of that barrier they put up over the Earth when they began their attack.
     
  7. Assblaster5000

    Assblaster5000 Know what you're doing yet?

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    That... would make more sense.
     
  8. Mr Zoat

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    Thank you, corrected.
     
  9. FreeGod

    FreeGod If you see a God on the road fuck it!

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    Just how powerful is Paul's powered armor at this point? He has many different tech bases to draw on and has had quite a bit of time to refine the design. No magic or meta-materials because that is expensive to store, but should I expect it to as least be as good as Ironman's suit? Reach scrabs? Generally assume that it at least equals any other tech bases powered armor in DC?
     
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  10. CTrees

    CTrees Chasing the ring

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    This whole mess with Varnathon almost sounds like Boss Smiley's influence, just applied to Qward instead of Earth.
     
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  11. Mr Zoat

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    His power armour is designed to keep him alive in the event that his ring shuts down. It's not particularly fast or maneuverable and is lightly armed.
     
  12. Steelplaza

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    I think the SI may be making a dangerous mistake here. Varnathon sounds like he was making Qwardian society run less well and be less devoted to the Anti-Monitor (if only due to corruption and neglect). And that's good for everyone else!

    Maybe Paul should consider shooting Kalmin in the back sometime soon.
     
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  13. ABZB

    ABZB Getting out there.

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    Thanks!

    Ah... I understand now, the usual apps are only hitting the begin-chapter threadmarks on the story-only thread.

    They also fail to pick up the color-formatting, so yeah.

    Edit: gustyeagle blocks incoming PMs from people they don't know... back to square one for me, I guess :(
     
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  14. PDV

    PDV The Revelation That Uncertainty is Itself a Answer

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    They knew they couldn't touch Varnathon. They weren't certain about the recently-returned Kalmin, and could count on a comparatively merciful death.
     
  15. Coda

    Coda I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Either "like Christian priests" or "like a Christian priest" (I lean towards the former)
     
  16. Mr Zoat

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    Thank you, corrected.
     
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  17. Stsword

    Stsword I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Pretty much.

    Varn basically made Qward a kakistocracy- as one poet put it "for the benefit of knaves at the cost of fools."

    Just the freaking opposite.

    Kalmin is for keeping the superweapons out of others hands because the goal is to destroy them.

    Varn would and has sold superweapons to line his own pockets.

    Would you like the Reach to have their own lantern corps?
     
  18. Darko

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    So basically no matter who wins, Kalmin or Varnathon, everyone else is fucked.
     
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  19. Stsword

    Stsword I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Everyone is fucked when the Anti-Monitor returns no matter what Qward does, regardless, that's a long term problem for which one can come up with a long term solution.

    Varn is an immediate problem.

    Ignoring long term problems is stupid, prioritizing immediate problems not so much.
     
  20. Maxx Crowley

    Maxx Crowley I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Just grab Superboy-Prime or Silver age Superman to beat him to death.
     
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  21. Someguy Somewhere

    Someguy Somewhere The Critical Fumbler

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    I think I'd prefer the anti-monitor to 'I'll Kill You To Death' Superboy-Prime.
     
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  22. Darko

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    Prime could potentially be talked down or prevented from going crazy.

    The Anti-Monitor, not so much.
     
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    Mr Zoat

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    11th July 2012
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    The city we're flying over looks like a cross between a factory complex and a medieval castle with just a few cyberpunk elements sprinkled on for taste. The highest point is a giant… Aerial, whose function I can only guess at. Below that the fortified buildings cluster with no externally clear rhyme or reason. Certainly I wouldn't say that any of them are in prime position. Qward leaves its mercantilism for the surface so there's no central business district in the way there would be in a human city. There's no greenery down here and in any case the Weaponers haven't historically been interested in gardening.

    Kalmin heads for what I think is a landing zone near the top of a manufacturing complex, landing and striding confidently in the direction of the entrance. Since I've got no real idea where we're heading I just follow him, taking note of the positions and comportment of the Thunderers standing guard. They're alert, searching for potential threats and prepared to act against them immediately. I also haven't checked the q'ardajin concept of law and order. Given what Kalmin said earlier I imagine that they do have one, but I also imagine that there'd be a very large amount of leeway for Thunderers protecting senior Weaponers.

    "High Weaponlord Kalmin. It's good to see you."

    Weaponer Lysis steps into the open, a retinue of two Thunderers accompanying her.

    "It's not good at all. Did you know that imbecile Varnathon-?"

    "This is-. Not the best place to talk about it. Not if you want to win over other Councillors before you act."

    "I'm issuing a challenge, not plotting a secret conspiracy."

    "But the transfer of power needs to be controlled. Managed. Otherwise it will cost us valuable resources."

    Kalmin grimaces as the two of them head further into the building, the Thunderers and I falling in behind them.

    "I can't imagine that Varnathon has created a resource shortage. I saw the tribute ships in orbit."

    "Trade ships, for the most part."

    "What is he.. trading?"

    "Not qwa matter, if that's what you're wondering. I reviewed the records after we spoke. His deal with the matter universe must be something he handled personally."

    "Who else would know about it?"

    "If it wasn't for the fact that I didn't know about it, I'd suggest asking me."

    I check, but she's using shielding as effective as that of her former mentor.

    "Then who?"

    "His drones, Tacticos and Strategos. He takes them everywhere with him."

    "Irritating things. I'm glad that you haven't adopted the habit."

    "But you have."

    "An automated weapon platform. It's an adequate aide, but it doesn't manage my life and it knows when to keep silent."

    "I would be fascinated to open it up and take a look myself, once our business here is concluded."

    I bet you would. Shame those eyes reduce her facial expressiveness, because I'd love to see the look on her face when she saw me.

    "You can just ask me for the schematics. It actually uses a fascinating matter disruption weapon that I acquired from a foe of Harold Jordan's."

    "Matter disruption… The Crumbler?"

    "The very same. The man was a lunatic, but I can't help but wonder if the Anti-Monitor touched his mind in some way."

    "I'm surprised to hear you say that."

    Kalmin shakes his head.

    "Our species has a unique relationship with the Anti-Monitor, but that doesn't mean that he doesn't make use of aliens from time to time. Even I do that."

    There's a bulkhead door up ahead, Thunderers with qwa bolt quivers on their backs and spears in their hands guarding it. Kalmin nods approvingly as one of them takes a moment to verify their identities before stepping aside and opening the door.

    Inside… It reminds me a little of the klingon courtroom from the Star Trek films. It's clearly a space designed to allow the people in the centre to argue their case to the people in the surrounding balconies, built of tough metal and with little thought given to comfort. Kalmin accelerates to get into the focus of the room as quickly as possible while Lysis satisfies herself with lurking near the door. The Thunderers stop outside of the room but with no direct instruction from Kalmin I opt to mirror Lysis's position.

    The balconies are occupied by a variety of q'ardajin. I see armour like Kalmin's as well as work overalls alongside what I suspect is a q'ardajin designer suit. Behind them lurk Thunderers, robots and aides. All of the people in leading positions are male and I only spot a couple of females at all. Only one of whom is wearing the bikini/thigh boot combination that Weaponer Lysis mentioned.

    I wonder what that's about, aside from the obvious.

    "Councillors. Weaponers of Qward. I bring grim tidings. Yesterday I bore witness to an alien race using significant amounts of qwa matter as a bomb."

    The Weaponers don't rant or rave, but I see flickers of rage and hear a few whispered oaths.

    "We all know the nature of qwa energy. We all know that the Anti-Monitor shared its secrets with no other people, even amongst his other allies. It is our sole providence. That is what has prompted my return. Varnathon is trading qwa matter!"

    Kalmin pulls an orb off his equipment harness and tosses it up into the air. It floats in the upper portion of the chamber, flickers and then projects a hologram of my fight with the qwa energy weapon wielding scarab warrior, though there are a lot of other notations on the energy output and other characteristics of the weapon. He then holds out his right hand and pulls out the gun out of subspace before tossing it to the ground in front of him. The Weaponers in attendance activate their own sensors, aside from a couple who just freeze up. Though I'm not sure if it's in shock that their High Weaponlord would do that or something else.

    "And worse, this!"

    The holographic image changes to a recording… Of my death. The actual explosion is played in slow motion, and again there are the notations to prove that what occurred actually occurred.

    "Why has this happened?! Why have you, Councillors, allowed this to happen unchecked?! Why has this betrayal of the Anti-Monitor, this betrayal of Qward, been allowed to happen?!"

    Kalmin pauses, walking a circuit of the room and making eye contact with the Weaponers who are giving him their rapt attention.

    "And that is not the end of his malignancy! I learned not an hour ago that he has changed the life assignment rating systems so that q'ardajin who would once have become Thunderer-cadets or Weaponer-apprentices are now sent for medical experimentation!"

    The holographic image changes again, this time… Showing the data he took from the Qwardian data networks. This he gives them a few moments to take in, probably because it's a bit more complex than 'there was an explosion'.

    "I failed Qward. I failed the Anti-Monitor, and my only complaint about my fate is that I was left alive. But I did not deliberately sabotage my own people! Varnathon has lost any right to be High Weaponlord!"

    A few of the Weaponers just nod right away, while the general emotional output of those I can read suggests that they're decidedly unimpressed with Varnathon's actions.

    "I move that Varnathon be killed and that this Council select a replacement from amongst its number! And in case you think that I do this for self-serving reasons, I will point out that I am not a member of this Council any longer. This is not about personal advancement, but about ensuring-."

    The door at the opposite end of the court arena slams open, and-.

    "All bow! All bow!"

    "Bow for the High Weaponlord, Varnathon of Q'uldi!"
     
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  24. BlackCoat13

    BlackCoat13 Getting sticky.

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    Right after all that evidence? Oh, this is going to go over well. /sarcasm
     
  25. Darko

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    Unless it involved bioweapon plants.

    It's probably a bit reminiscent of the Klingon concept.

    Though it is trying.

    He does now, but not so much any other time.

    I'm betting she'll at first be a little surprised before she goes back to trying to cut you up.

    Wonderful, now psychotic aliens are also using Earth tech instead of just psychotic humans.

    Okay, this is a bit frightening in how much it can potentially be true.

    Maybe 'alongside'

    It could either be because someone more powerful than her wants her to wear it, she's wearing it so that others think she's more submissive and underesrimate her, or she may just like the clothes.
     
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    Throw the qwa bolt.

    Do it.

    Kill him now.
     
  27. Ancalador

    Ancalador Know what you're doing yet?

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    Something tells me he is not going to like his reception.
     
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    No, they don't really go in for those. Plants, I mean. Bioweapons are fine.
    Thank you, corrected.
     
  29. Handlewithcare

    Handlewithcare I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    No fucking around with small talk or politics with these q'ardajin, just straight up "This and this sucks, here's what we should do"

    How delightfully refreshing

    Shoukd I be worried about how much I am starting to like these people?
     
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    deimos16 Making the rounds.

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    Considering that they're obsessed with destroying everything?

    ....Maybe.
     
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