1. Due to issues with external spam filters, QQ is currently unable to send any mail to Microsoft E-mail addresses. This includes any account at live.com, hotmail.com or msn.com. Signing up to the forum with one of these addresses will result in your verification E-mail never arriving. For best results, please use a different E-mail provider for your QQ address.
    Dismiss Notice
  2. For prospective new members, a word of warning: don't use common names like Dennis, Simon, or Kenny if you decide to create an account. Spammers have used them all before you and gotten those names flagged in the anti-spam databases. Your account registration will be rejected because of it.
    Dismiss Notice
  3. Since it has happened MULTIPLE times now, I want to be very clear about this. You do not get to abandon an account and create a new one. You do not get to pass an account to someone else and create a new one. If you do so anyway, you will be banned for creating sockpuppets.
    Dismiss Notice
  4. If you wish to change your username, please ask via conversation to tehelgee instead of asking via my profile. I'd like to not clutter it up with such requests.
    Dismiss Notice
  5. Due to the actions of particularly persistent spammers and trolls, we will be banning disposable email addresses from today onward.
    Dismiss Notice
  6. We have added another rule, please check the Rules post for more information.
    Dismiss Notice
  7. Due to some issues with Freenode, the QQ IRC Channel is moving. See here for more information.
    Dismiss Notice

With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

Loading...
  1. Vaermina

    Vaermina Versed in the lewd.

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2015
    Messages:
    2,038
    Likes Received:
    5,045
    And that was how Grayven's story ended.

    All things considered it was a good run, but the First One's aren't a force he can ever stand up to and they don't take kindly to people from other dimensions showing up in their playground.
     
  2. Rafin

    Rafin Know what you're doing yet?

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2016
    Messages:
    158
    Likes Received:
    429
    Can someone remind me how the state of Euphorix and its queen differs in Grayven's verse compared to that of the Illustress?
     
  3. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2016
    Messages:
    8,685
    Likes Received:
    348,970
    Guardians were designed to look like David Ben-Gurion. Hinon looks like his late wife. Only shorter. Controllers don't have a uniform appearence, but most are taller than that.

    I mean, that's what I thought I meant to write, anyway. If I've actually written something else then please let me know.
    What exactly were you expecting from a God of Conquest? A British God of Conquest, no less?
     
  4. Vaermina

    Vaermina Versed in the lewd.

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2015
    Messages:
    2,038
    Likes Received:
    5,045
    Lots of tea drinking? ;)
     
  5. Ngamer11

    Ngamer11 I trust you know where the happy button is?

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2019
    Messages:
    898
    Likes Received:
    4,217
    I thought her name is Ixy? Or is this just due to pronunciation?
     
    Prince Charon likes this.
  6. Darko

    Darko Well worn.

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2019
    Messages:
    6,419
    Likes Received:
    48,969
    I think it's just shortened.

    Like how you call someone Joe, but their name is Joseph, or Sam, but their name is Samuel.
     
    Last edited: May 5, 2021
    NightmareWarden likes this.
  7. Fellow

    Fellow Know what you're doing yet?

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2019
    Messages:
    118
    Likes Received:
    607
    I also remember him using a picture of an elderly woman for Hinon.

    Edit:
    Found it! It's the link on 'Controller'.
     
    Last edited: May 5, 2021
    Xmaster3000 and Prince Charon like this.
  8. Sockmonkey

    Sockmonkey Not too sore, are you?

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2016
    Messages:
    404
    Likes Received:
    2,132
    In my head I imagined Hinon looking like a female guardian, but I don't recall if that was due to something in the story or just my head filling in the blanks.
     
  9. Darko

    Darko Well worn.

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2019
    Messages:
    6,419
    Likes Received:
    48,969
    She did use to be a member of the Guardians.
     
  10. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2016
    Messages:
    8,685
    Likes Received:
    348,970
    Ixy is on the team. Ecksey is helping Karsta Wor-Ul.
     
  11. Ngamer11

    Ngamer11 I trust you know where the happy button is?

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2019
    Messages:
    898
    Likes Received:
    4,217
    Mr Zoat, just wondering if you remember these corrections I made earlier in the thread.
     
  12. Darko

    Darko Well worn.

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2019
    Messages:
    6,419
    Likes Received:
    48,969
    'shown'
     
  13. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2016
    Messages:
    8,685
    Likes Received:
    348,970
    Thank you, corrected.
    No, completely forgot about them. I'll try and find time this week.
     
  14. Doccer

    Doccer Know what you're doing yet?

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2019
    Messages:
    235
    Likes Received:
    504
    dead
     
  15. Pinklestia

    Pinklestia Experienced.

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2015
    Messages:
    3,010
    Likes Received:
    7,801
    He literally has it engraved in his soul. He may not have any attacks but Antilife can't control him.
     
  16. Darko

    Darko Well worn.

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2019
    Messages:
    6,419
    Likes Received:
    48,969
    I know he had the piece of the Equation destroyed, but I don't think it was ever mentioned that he was immune or resistant to the Equation anymore.
     
    Xmaster3000 likes this.
  17. Pinklestia

    Pinklestia Experienced.

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2015
    Messages:
    3,010
    Likes Received:
    7,801
    It has been shown that while still a God on Conquest; Grayven now runs on Harmony, he even gets called out if it a few times.

    So while not quite enlightenment, is gonna do something.
     
  18. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2016
    Messages:
    8,685
    Likes Received:
    348,970
    No. With all the actions which the gordanians committed.
    Getting exposed to the Elements certainly changed him, but 'runs on Harmony' is overstating it.
     
  19. Darko

    Darko Well worn.

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2019
    Messages:
    6,419
    Likes Received:
    48,969
    Yeah, the only thing I remember is him getting Harmony to get rid of the Equation in him.

    I don't remember him now running on Harmony, or anyone mentioning that, or him now being immune or resistant to the Anti-Life or Omega Effect.

    If what you're saying is true, them please provide a link.
     
  20. Coda

    Coda I trust you know where the happy button is?

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2019
    Messages:
    646
    Likes Received:
    2,522
    Branx (or branx? is it a species name or a demonym?)

    gordanians

    comma instead of semicolon (but your other semicolons look correct)
     
    Chojin Patriarch and Mr Zoat like this.
  21. Pinklestia

    Pinklestia Experienced.

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2015
    Messages:
    3,010
    Likes Received:
    7,801
    Harmonius Conquest?

    Is kind of hilarious how he and Artemis developed a codependency similar to Celestia and Luna.

    That being said I honesty want to see more of Artemis in Equestria.
     
  22. transhumansage

    transhumansage I trust you know where the happy button is?

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2016
    Messages:
    716
    Likes Received:
    1,891
    is she talking about main paul?

    edit: oh does she mean original gravyen?
     
    Doccer likes this.
  23. Darko

    Darko Well worn.

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2019
    Messages:
    6,419
    Likes Received:
    48,969
    No, she's talking about Actually Grayven.

    The 'Actually' is important.
     
    transhumansage likes this.
  24. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2016
    Messages:
    8,685
    Likes Received:
    348,970
    Thank you, corrected.

    The planet is called Emana.
     
  25. Threadmarks: Negetiations (supplementary, Renegade Option)
    Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2016
    Messages:
    8,685
    Likes Received:
    348,970
    11th August 2012
    16:21 GMT


    Balls balls balls balls balls.

    "His Grace Duke Oswin will see you now, Lord Grayven, Lord Tawny."

    Alonzo's butler ushers us from the lounge where we'd been deposited on our arrival and leads us through Oswin's manor. It used to belong to the pirate Amalak, but since Komand'r's Lanterns and Oswin's fleet annihilated his organisation Oswin's made it his base of operations in his new duchy. I-.

    I frown at the display case in the centre of a large corridor intersection. It's a cube about five metres on each axis, and the… Thing inside it-.

    "Excuse me."

    The butler turns back, eyebrows raise. "Sir?"

    "What is that?"

    "Some sort of monster the Spider Guild were keeping in their burrows, sir. The marines who killed it presented it to His Grace as a trophy, and he had it preserved for display."

    I give it a quick scan. Huh, based on their own genetic structure. Weird. The Spider Guild are pretty big on robotics, but it's unusual for them to get into biotechnology.

    I nod. "Impressive."

    "Just so, sir. If you'll follow me?"

    We follow him to the artfully designed doors of Oswin's receiving lounge, the butler pulling open the doors and stepping inside just ahead of us.

    "Lords Grayven and Tawny, Your Grace."

    "Thank you, Rychen. That will be all."

    I steps aside and… Okay, Oswin's a friendly face, a worthy ally and we've got a good working relationship. I don't know what Kalista and Pren are doing here. I don't want them to be here and I don't want to have to pretend that they matter in the grand scheme of things. If for no other reason than that they probably aren't happy about Komand'r's realpolitik campaign or Regent Alonzo's continued isolation. I mean, I haven't been boasting about it or anything but I'm sure they know that I'm employing Euphorians by now.

    "Admiral!" I stride over to his sitting area as he rises to greet me. A polite grip around his forearm while he grips the heel of my hand. "Good to see you."

    "Oh no, Grayven. It's quite wrong to continue calling me Admiral. The Crown Imperium's law is very clear on the subject. The only fleet I command is that of my duchy's patrol fleet."

    Which just happens to be comprised of virtually the entire royal fleet that was assigned to attack Vega under his command. Only those ships loaned from other duchies have actually left the region, which given how volatile it was makes a good deal of sense.

    "I stand corrected." I release his arm. "I believe that you met Michael?"

    Michael's slightly larger than me in his humanoid form these days. Being a renowned warrior has agreed with him, as has fatherhood. He and Oswin clasp arms for a moment before Oswin stands aside to formally introduce his other guests.

    "Queen Kalista and Lord Pren."

    I nod and lie. "Good to see you both."

    "Likewise."

    Kalista is probably about as glad to see me as I am her, but she manages a polite smile. Regular meals and sleep clearly agree with her far more than life as a terrorist. I have no idea how she feels about the Crown Imperium's annexation of so much extra space. Not like Euphorix had any claim to it, but it could be awkward if she's trying to work out how to set Owsin and me against each other.

    Pren is there.

    Oswin points to a pair of chairs clearly reinforced for the benefit of plus-sized guests like myself and Michael.

    "Please, sit, and tell us what brings you here."

    I sit at once, whereas Michael takes a moment to get comfortable. At home he usually shifts back into his quadruped form when he wants to get really comfortable, but clearly this rates a greater degree of formality.

    "Short version: there's two of me, and the other one's heading this way with a fleet of gordanians."

    Oswin blinks. "Two of you? Do you mean to say that you have a twin brother?"

    "It's possible that Father cloned me. Or.. cloned him and created me. Or that another New God did; really, it's… A bit of an imponderable. He exists, and he's coming here."

    "And when you say here..?"

    "He's mostly coming to kill me, but he's got an army of gordanians. Which is why I brought Michael."

    "Ah. Yes. Do you have any idea on numbers?"

    "Not much of one. At least one Apokoliptian dreadnaught, so I suggest that your sensor officers should wear their brown trousers when he gets here. If he's anything like me -and for obvious reasons he should be- then the ships the Gordanians will be using will be significantly upgraded compared to what their local brethren use. Plus whatever odds and sods he's picked up in his travels."

    "These… Gordanians. Where exactly did he acquire them?"

    "Pass. Until yesterday I honestly thought he was doing the intelligent thing and avoiding me. But there are plenty of Gordanian clans around the region who were losing out in Vega and could have been co-opted."

    Michael nods. "The Karnans have good intelligence on the clans with an actual presence on Karna. But for all of the others..."

    Oswin nods. "We only kept approximate tabs on them as well. Below a certain level they weren't really a threat to us, so we didn't prioritise it. How did you come by this information?"

    "The Controller who's on Tamaran to oversee the Central Power Battery. Her name's Hinon, and she's got access to all of their intelligence infrastructure. It seems that my alter ego had been planning on targeting the Reach… You may not have heard of them, but they have a fair sized empire on the other side of the galactic core."

    "No, no, I've heard of them. Never met one, but I know who you mean. You mean to say that a force a man of your strategic acumen believed could threaten the largest empire in the galaxy is heading here."

    "It's possible that he meant to spend some time gathering allies in-situ, but essentially, yes."

    "This fleet will be armed with weapons built by the most technologically advanced species in the galaxy."

    "On that score I've got a little good news. Unless he's got other New Gods with him, no. Our weapons require New Gods to operate them, and unlike humans and other Earth-native life forms the gordanians aren't compatible with the Awakening. The other Grayven can buff his fleet and followers, but that's all flowing from him."

    "So: assassination."

    "That's… Prohibitively difficult. With Apokoliptians, it's more a duel between the two faction-leaders, and unless you're much better with a sword than I am, I suggest leaving that job to me."

    "Single combat? He'll settle this with a duel?"

    "No, it's more complicated than that. Either of us killing the other will allow us to step into the other's divine… Shoes, so to speak." Though I will be talking to Kanto just in case I've misunderstood how it works. "Last time I killed a version of me I was effectively able to give commands to his followers in the immediate aftermath and have them obeyed. Not sure what happens if he kills me, but it would probably be rather bad for you."

    "So we're involved whether we want to be or not."

    I shrug. "Sorry. I'll compensate you, of course, and share whatever benefits we get seizing his holdings. But if it's all New God technology, you're just not going to be compatible."

    He nods. "Regarding our Orange Lantern Corps candidates."

    "Stop sending callow young nobles bucking for promotion. They don't have the mindset or life experience to handle it."

    "Oh, I know. I just wanted their families to stop bothering me. On the other hand, the three of us-" He indicates oh why! "-are a little more stable and focused."

    "Make a will and designate an heir, and I'll oversee your induction myself."

    "Then we have an agreement in principle." He smiles broadly. "Let's kill you."
     
    Last edited: Jun 4, 2021
  26. Handlewithcare

    Handlewithcare I trust you know where the happy button is?

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2019
    Messages:
    841
    Likes Received:
    7,882
    Ha, I like him.

    Who was Michael again?

    And if it's going to end in a duel anyway, why involve Vega at all? Just fly to OtherGrayvens fleet and challenge him
     
  27. DrThoth

    DrThoth Not too sore, are you?

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2016
    Messages:
    499
    Likes Received:
    2,048
    I wonder what this is; the corpse of the Spider Queen, or something else?

    I think this is referring to Kanto from the Justice Lords timeline/universe, right? Is he hanging around Earth-16R? I suppose Renegade has theoretical access to the Kanto from his universe but that doesn't seem like a feasible option.

    To the best of my knowledge/recollection, this is the first indication that Tawny has become a father in-story. Correct me if I'm wrong on that front, but if not then I'm a bit tired of interesting character and plot points happening offscreen a lot (definitely my personal bias, since I especially wanted to see the Renegade-Nabu situation being resolved onscreen).

    How does Kalista rank in terms of Euphorian magic-users? I don't think Renegade has really focused on recruiting mages from there. I'd be interested to see a magic-user wield a power ring (I guess we have Hieronymous in the Paragon timeline now, though he hasn't appeared that much yet).
     
    Gilhelmi, Whiteeyes, anirocks and 8 others like this.
  28. Darko

    Darko Well worn.

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2019
    Messages:
    6,419
    Likes Received:
    48,969
    I'm betting it's the Queen.

    Yep.

    I'm sad that renegade won't experience the joy of spider fatherhood like Paul.

    Oh wait, he abandoned his little girl, the utter bastard.

    'of us'

    How did he become a father?

    Were some Karnans interested?

    'reasons'

    'fair sized' is a bit of an understatement.

    'believes'

    I think I remember that in the the first April Fools episode there was a small segment where renegade killed some evil god in the Captain Planet universe and absorbed some of his power.

    I know that in the comics it's said that Darkseid kills and absorbs the powers of pantheons and in the n52 that's how he became a god in the first place.

    'or life'

    Cheeky bastard.
     
  29. Vaermina

    Vaermina Versed in the lewd.

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2015
    Messages:
    2,038
    Likes Received:
    5,045
    Because he's afraid he will loose.

    Even though there's absolutely no chance of it because Zoat's characters never really loose.
     
  30. DrThoth

    DrThoth Not too sore, are you?

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2016
    Messages:
    499
    Likes Received:
    2,048
    I only remember future-Paragon showing up in the Captain Planet universe; do you have a link or any keywords to search for?

    I assume a lot of them were, since Renegade's said he basically looks like a Karnan demigod. I'm imagining an anthropomorphic feline version of Hercules, both in terms of appearance and cultural significance on Karna.

    What stories would you say have the main characters suffering setbacks and/or losses in a satisfactory manner?
     
Loading...