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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. transhumansage

    transhumansage I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Mr Zoat
    Do you think you would be able to recreate the starwood trees from the genetic sample in the hull of the dragon ship, using the ring? would be a powerful tool against chaos.
     
  2. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    I suspect that it wouldn't occur to him that a tree could be so important.

    I don't know how well DNA survives in wood. Maybe? Though if there was a magic component that might not work.
     
  3. transhumansage

    transhumansage I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    a shame. after i read about it in the wiki, it seemed practically miraculous to me. there are very few things that can truly fight chaos corruption in the Warhammer world. i wonder if they could be modified to even reverse it. that would be a game changer.

    as for the the magical component, since Ulthuan contains the great vortex all the winds converge there, so it would simply be logical to assume that the Starwood trees need a magic rich environment, which should be producible with the help of the high mages.
     
  4. Vaermina

    Vaermina Versed in the lewd.

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    I think you have been doing too much Farscape research... That link just leads to Rigel...
     
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    Nervaqus987 Experienced.

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    Oops.

    Fixed.
     
  6. Someguy Somewhere

    Someguy Somewhere The Critical Fumbler

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    Teclis is the (roughly) WHFB equivalent to Eldrad 'That Dick' Ulthran, when it comes GW's parity between Fantasy and 40k.

    Now Eldrad is a very high bar to be placed against, but if you're operating anywhere near that level, 'seems cool' is a dangerous assumption.

    The End Times and Teclis is a merry old time, and his tag team with his brother come Age of Sigmar ...well.. that's just the icing on the cake.

    (when the 'heros' have Slannesh the goddess of excess calling for an adult, you know things are well off the rails)
     
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  7. Someguy Somewhere

    Someguy Somewhere The Critical Fumbler

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    Also, as far back as Renegade's first meeting with the Team, he pulled off short range FTL to mess with Kid Flash, Long before he'd had a chance to so much as observe another lantern, let alone get database information.

    The ring might not have a technical database about other things, nor a complete owners manual, but it can be asked questions on it's own abilities as well as experiment using it's sensors and the laws of physics around.

    Honestly for the WHFB and even the Wasteland Paul's (while he had charge), taking an afternoon with the ring to re-derive formula's for physics/chemistry/etc from first fundamentals and ring gathered data, then making a few books would not be a waste for later on.

    Just having one of these in his pocket when he arrived could very well uplift a primitive civilization or two.
     
  8. crazygrox

    crazygrox I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Though... 40k Paul was able to warp. Does that mean that 40k had a database?

    I don't think it's necessary in Zoat's fics. Also for some reason 40k Paul can't make new rings out of assimilated people
     
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  9. Darko

    Darko Well worn.

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    Read the posts above yours.

    Several people have given examples of him using FTL and transitioning.

    He may not even know it's possible.
     
  10. Threadmarks: Peacehammer (part 3)
    Mr Zoat

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    17th Vorhexen 2512
    Late Morning


    The elf I strongly suspect to be Loremaster Teclis looks directly at me, and I awkwardly wave my right hand. I haven't tested myself against High Magic users, but based on the records of the Dwarfs I think I'm out of Deadlock range up here. So even if the ring counts as a magic artefact they can't easily drop me in the ocean.

    The Tempest would still be unpleasant, but I could probably hide under water.

    The other two… Uh, would they be Archmages or Loremasters? Not all high end High Elf wizards work for the White Tower of Hoeth, and I neither know how to tell them apart or whether they'd be offended by me getting it wrong-.

    They're High Elves. Of course they'll be offended if I get it wrong. It's a coin toss as to whether they'll be offended by me getting it right.

    I fly closer as probably-Teclis's companions notice where he's looking. There's a.. certain amount of arcane glowing happening as a result, and a group of nearby archers put arrow to string. Their bodyguards -who bear the muscular builds and huge swords of the Swordmasters of Hoeth- also stand at alert, though without a specific order from their masters they don't ready their weapons.

    I could create a filament to a telephone construct on the ship, but I don't imagine that would go better than flying closer. If they don't want me to, I'm pretty sure they can just loose an arrow or a fireball at me. Though…

    "Ahoy there!"

    A construct megaphone shouldn't be too alarming. I'm sure that there's a better design for a sound projector, but I haven't experimented with that sort of thing. There isn't.. much point, usually.

    A gesture from Teclis and arrows are returned to quivers, then the wizards walk away from the skiffs and over to an open area of the decks around the starboard bolt thrower battery. That… Seems like an invitation. Alright then. I transition to the deck just ahead of them and nod politely.

    "Lady and gentlemen. What brings you to my home?"

    "Strange tales of a human sorcerer who glowed with orange light and planned to take control of all magic in the world."

    I make my face completely deadpan.

    "Never heard of him."

    Teclis smiles very slightly, and I-. It's not just that he's short. He's gaunt, stick thin. I thought that his staff made him healthy but from the look of it that's not the case. I guess it just deals with the symptoms rather than the root cause.

    "Several months ago my spies in Altdorf brought word of a man seeking to build a waystone network which would channel the winds of magic on a global scale, such as the waystones on Ulthuan have since the Great War Against Chaos."

    "Several mon-?" I close my eyes, sighing. "Are you telling me that your spies reported that to you faster than the courier I paid to directly inform you?"

    "I have received no word by courier, so it would appear so. Did you ask for a receipt?"

    "That's it. I'm not bothering with couriers any more. I'm just going to have a locked box in my room with 'highly secret do not steal' written on it. Everyone will know in an afternoon."

    He smiles politely, while his colleagues remain stoney-faced.

    "It's true, then? A global network?"

    "It should be possible, shouldn't it? I wrote to you because after the slann you are the person I thought would be best placed to actually plan the thing out. And when I visited, they… Weren't helpful."

    "They usually don't appreciate surprise visitors."

    "I just stood there for half an hour. The Mage-Priest didn't even react. Still, the skinks were able to help me get a few bags of potatoes so it wasn't a complete waste of time."

    I think he's frowning, but the hat covers a lot of his forehead. "What are 'potatoes'?"

    "A plant related to Deadly Nightshade which produces edible tubers. They're extremely nutritious, as long as you don't eat the green parts. I want to help my people become healthier than they are, and improving their diet is part of that."

    He appears to decide to ignore my digression.

    "And the Nehekharans were your third choice, as their tombs are aligned to points of geomantic significance, their deathless state makes them resistant to corruption and since their lands are dead the effects of any harm would be moderated. Where would you have gone if they were unwilling to aid you?"

    "Albion. It turns out that their Ogham Stones are a waystone network, but they… Don't have a feature like Ulthuan's inland sea to focus the overflow, so the island is just a mess. Between the druids and the Light College we might be able to work something out, but you're a far better choice."

    "Where does your scheme place the overflow for a network covering the entire world?"

    "Since… There's a portal over each pole, I was hoping that they could each be each other's overflow."

    "That..?" He shakes his head. "No." Behind him, the male archmage shudders slightly while the female rolls her eyes. "You would essentially be blowing more wind into a hurricane. Such a thing might be bearable in the south, but in the north it would spread the Realm of Chaos even further."

    "Okay, so that-. Not a good idea. But in the generality, is it..? Would it be useful?"

    "Yes, certainly, if it could be made to work. Though given the locations that would have to serve as nodes in the network… How good at killing orcs are you?"

    I shrug. "Remember how the Dwarfs used to have problems with orcs and goblins?"

    Ah, Skarsnik. My first special character kill.

    "Used-?"

    "Yes. I got a lot of grudges settled doing that. Oh, which… Reminds me. Do you still want the original Phoenix Crown back? Because I'm going to settle the grudges concerning the attacks by Malekith's followers that were the original casus belli, so all that's left will be Caledor the Second's insults and the Shaving, and… Those could probably be settled in a few hours, if your king were willing."

    "May we return for a moment to your claim that there are now no orcs in the World's Edge Mountains?"

    "I doubt that I got all of them, but it turns out that there's a chemical formula which is highly injurious to orcoid algae. Plus, they're physically distinct, so it's easy enough for me to locate them." I shrug. "I know that the waystones will need to be defended, so I've been working at clearing certain areas where I'd like to start."

    "Yes, that is true. I am glad that you have some concept of the scale of the undertaking."

    "But… Are you onboard? Does this plan sound plausible?"

    "It may prove possible for me to turn your outline into a workable scheme, yes."

    "Great! Let me know what areas you need cleared first, and I'll get right on that. I can't personally garrison every area, but I can build fortifications like you wouldn't believe."

    "It will be some time before we can mark sites. We would need to survey… The entire world before we can do that."

    I nod. "Right, but you've got a general idea of the places likely to be important, right? For the main hub waystones?"

    "Yes, but-."

    "No time spent killing greenskins and beastmen is wasted, I just want to be a little more efficient. I'm not going to write a grudge in the book if it turns out you were a little off."

    "I see. We can certainly provide you with the approximate areas which we are likely to need to clear."

    "And I can escort your survey teams there and keep them safe while I clear the area." I look at the other Archmages and the Swordmasters. "I assume that's what they're here for?"

    "No. They're here for the other matter. Prince Sharvan relayed your request for information on Ulthuanian birth rates, as well as the fact that several elf women you attended to are now pregnant. We are here to escort written copies of birth rates from several cities, and to see what you can learn from them."

    That must have caused some teeth-clenching. But it's certainly nice to have someone who's prepared to work with me like this.

    I smile.

    "Then by all means, show me the data."
     
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  11. Darko

    Darko Well worn.

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    They may get offended even if you do it right.

    If I remember correctly the guy couldn't even stand on his legs without a potion to help him.

    He could have died.

    Or Paul was cheated.

    'and since their'

    Your first time is always so special.

    'to need to be'
     
  12. BlueMangoAdea

    BlueMangoAdea Alive. For now.

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    by all means
     
  13. Vaermina

    Vaermina Versed in the lewd.

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    This was a very stupid idea...

    So it's a good thing the elves shot it down...


    The Elves now rightly believe this Paul is an idiot.
     
  14. Genocidecles

    Genocidecles Getting sticky.

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    To be fair, this idiot was just wise enough to check with the world's leading experts before enacting his hairbrained scheme. He was also wise enough to listen when they told him it was a dumb idea.
     
  15. Mr Zoat

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    He drops from M5 to M2.5
    Thank you, corrected.
     
  16. Citizen

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    I can only imagine how hard Teclis' mind is going "but what's the catch here?". Good things just don't happen like this in Warhammer, not without a big ol' cloud for all that silver lining. (Also I imagine the Phoenix King is likely to be...resistant to clearing out the differences between Asur and Dawi. Dwarfs aren't the only ones to hold grudges af ter all)
     
  17. Tzeentch

    Tzeentch Know what you're doing yet?

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    Deep down, underneath centuries of practice in controlling their emotions, they want to burst out laughing, Teclis especially. It's been a while since he's had anyone to engage in a "snark off" with, I imagine.
     
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    NightmareWarden Not too sore, are you?

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    The catch is that any immortal elves have to deal with Paul for eternity.
     
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    Those poor bastards.
     
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    An incomplete list of probably terrible places to dump the overflow magic of the entire world, in no particular order:
    • The Maw
    • The Galleon's Graveyard
    • Skavenblight
    • The Oak of Ages
    • Itza
    • The Rune of Azamar
    • The Altar of Khaine
    • The Black Pyramid
    • Praag (Or wherever Arianka actually is)
     
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    Do you want to end the world?
    Warpstone is one of the most instable material on the planet and the Skaven industrialized around it. Feeding it all the magic is an excellent way to make the plot of TW:W2 without the Skaven needing the massive deception.

    And the Black Pyramid? Do you want Age of Sigmar!Nagash right now?
     
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    AmericanNumbers Making the rounds.

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    I close my eyes, sighing
     
  23. Tzeentch

    Tzeentch Know what you're doing yet?

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    Thing is, Warhammer Elves aren't exactly immortal though they ARE very long-lived. So the catch would be Paul is sure to outlive the majority of the Asur unless the High Elves develop some means of eternal life.
     
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    GhostKing 666 Getting sticky.

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    It's not the sea, it's the Great Vortex. The broken Warp Gates were basically flooding the world with magic so Caledor made a drain to siphon as much of said magic out as he could. However at the time, Caledor's Vortex alone would not have been able to handle the inflow. The Truthsayers of Albion turned Albion into a giant magic sink(while also somehow preventing all that magic from congealing into Dhar because the ancient Old One trained Truthsayers were bullshit like that), all the while knowing that it would turn their paradise island into a mist and rain soaked shithole. They knew how badly they were going to fuck their island over and their own future generations, but for the sake of the world they did it anyway.

    As for the creation of a global waystone network... it already exists?
    The elves in their post-chaos golden age repurposed the original global Old One waystone network to channel and direct magical energy into the Great Vortex, expanded it with their own waystone copies and then got the dwarfs to help them further expand it with even better copies(first generation waystones are Old One, second generation are elf, third generation are elf/dwarf).

    The problem is that over the millennia of decline, both the elves and the dwarfs have lost the knowledge on how to construct waystones. The elves can monitor, maintain and repair waystones, but they can't replace destroyed ones nor can they expand the network like they used too.
     
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    Indeed, that would be a bad idea. Since in Warhammer game rules, you would likely count as a Flying character, capable of 'flying high'... And as Characters flying high have learned over the years: You get a long time to contemplate your mistakes when you're falling from the sky...

    Just assume they'd be offended in general, and you'll be fine.

    They look to be very, very nervous. I would suggest being very disarming and not look too aggressive.

    And since you don't have electronics to scan, no way to design one easily.

    Well, they aren't shooting at him yet. That's a good sign. Guess short, withered and godlike is in the mood for a chat, not an extermination.

    And Teclis just gives him a look only a thousands-of-years-old Elf can. One that the Paragon would probably be familiar with from Hinon...

    Hopefully, once you're good enough allies for him not to take it badly, maybe you can offer some physical treatment... Though his bloodline curse may make for a hefty bit of resistance.

    ...Unless said courier was an Elf, I don't see him getting to Ulthuan easily. Never mind the dangers of the road. If the latter happened to him, your message probably ended up as some Orc's toilet rag.

    Ah, in the finest tradition of Pratchett.

    At least he's not an arsehole. I mean, you haven't really said anything to offend him, at least... Hopefully he keeps that good mood.

    Or any visitors at all. Especially since their general experience with foreigners is 'thieves after gold'.

    ...Keep in mind, Slaan are very old and very slow to react... I'd laugh if, an hour after he left, the Slann asked, "Eh? Who are you?"

    Oh, yes. Potatoes would definitely help there. There's good reason they became a staple of European diets eventually. Never mind the flexibility in preparing them... Bake 'em, mash 'em, put 'em inna stew!

    Not a lot of options left in the Old World...

    Albion, for reference, is the Old World equivalent of the British Isles. Its' biggest contribution was a world-wide campaign a few editions back that introduced Belakor, First Champion of Chaos, to the setting.

    Yeah, that's the kind of thing that would reduce the world to a smoking cinder.

    He has plenty of Dakka to work with.

    The first of many Greenskin heroes to meet an orange-flavoured demise, I bet. With many Skaven and Chaos to follow.

    All of these are references to the prime conflict between Elf and Dwarf in the Old World, the War of the Beard. And yes, the Dark Elves did set it off. And Teclis is no doubt sweating (internally) at the thought of that political coup.

    ...Would this chemical formula be the same one as discovered by the first users of the Halfling Hot Pot? Which, if memory serves me correctly, was instrumental in ending a battle with an Orc horde by melting the Warlord leading it.

    Heh. And if it works, he gets to take credit for it. :p Typical Knife-ears.

    I'm sure Paul could provide a detailed map in no time. Just ask.

    And if that sounds racist, don't worry. They're all bad guys. Orcs love a good scrap to the point of stating it with those who can't fight back, Goblins are sneaky backstabbing gits, and Beastmen? Their favourite pastimes include rape, murder, arson and rape. And that's just the ones not aligned to a particular Chaos God.

    Jumping the gun a little there, Paul.

    Such a satisfying feeling, when people aren't being complete idiots, eh?

    I'm sure it'll be enlightening.

    Well, things went better than expected. I suppose Teclis can look forwards to actually be working with someone who doesn't think with their sword arm or magic wand... I can't imagine the Chaos Gods are going to be particularly happy about their little project, though. Bet Archaon will be getting quite a few visions of 'the orange man' in future.
     
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    I remember once wanting this universe and the Ben 10 one to meet so Azmuth and Hinon could bend over stupid humans misusing their intentions.

    Now I want Teclis and Hinon to meet.

    Not necessarily.

    Teclis is typically very fair and if I remember correctly he actually helped in the creation of the Magic Colleges, so he may give Paul the credit he deserves.

    It's possible he'll be more celebrated, at least among the Elves, since he's a highly knowledgeable and famous magic user, so the people may assume he did most of the important work.
     
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    Dappershire Getting some practice in, huh?

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    Directly into Paul's Ring's Storage Space.
     
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    As I understand it, he's acerbic but doesn't put elves on a higher shelf than other races. I imagine Paul's getting the benefit of the doubt because he's obviously trying to be Part Of The Solution and seeing a bigger picture than most other people Teclis deals with. A longer association might have Paul get the rough side of his tongue (...which he may enjoy? I don't know what kind of cat person Paul is in general, but some cat people I know IRL seem to take being licked by sandpaper as a sign of affection. Elves are cats, right?) but Paragon Paul gets something similar from Controller Hinon, which....he takes well enough, I guess?
     
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    FeepingCreature Not too sore, are you?

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    Yeah man, me too.
    Paul, mad statistician, taking on the replication crisis personally.
     
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    Paul's head hasn't exploded yet, so the Chaos Gods are obviously fine with it since they can in fact just explode Paul's head if they want to.

    The real problem though is probably going to be Gork and Mork.

    Because his quest to destroy the Ork's has almost surely caught their attention. Which means it's only a matter of time before a full on campaign is launched to destroy everything Paul's trying to build.
     
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