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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. infinityDivided

    infinityDivided ******** of Doom

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    Actually, I was wondering. If the rings are capable of fleshcrafting, and can operate anywhere on the user's body, why do they always wear the rings externally? Sure, they'd have to expose it to recharge, but wouldn't keeping the ring in, say, the rib cage (or rib cage equivalent) be safer?
     
  2. Aeess

    Aeess I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Thats what Paul did when he became a demon, Sybarite(another Paul who became a demon) also did that, but I think in general that wouldn't be good for the mental health of the wearer, considering that even green light has some influence on its users.
     
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  3. Buggy123

    Buggy123 I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Yes, and OL kinda did that briefly when he invaded HEll. But I figure that, otherwise, it's not a thing for a few reasons:

    1: It's usually unnecessary. As a lantern, if a opponent can get your ring off you despite construct armor/environmental shield, you've probably already thoroughly lost.
    2: It might be counterproductive if you've lost a fight; a potentially merciful opponent would now find it necessary to seriously injure or kill you to disarm you.
    3: It prevents you from easily removing the ring yourself (without taking advantage of the ring). This is a disadvantage with less stable ring colors such as avarice, because you can't easily remove it to halt the mental effects. Not to mention if you run out of charge, you're stuck with a ring embedded in you.
     
  4. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    The SI doesn't know.
    Karon doesn't think that Holly's going to abandon her for a random woman she went jogging with. But she knows that Holly thinks about sex differently to how she does, and this isn't the first time Holly has blatantly checked someone out like this.
     
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  5. Aeess

    Aeess I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    You would think that, but Sinestro makes it look pretty easy to steal even a White Ring.
    [​IMG]
     
  6. Vaermina

    Vaermina Well worn.

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    Apparently they couldn't given how pathetic the Dark Stars Exo-Mantles actually were.

    He traveled 10 billion years into the past, before the timeline's split, and taught the Earth-0 Malthusians how to create the technology.
     
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  7. Buggy123

    Buggy123 I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    I was under the impression that that was because of a lack of Emotional Spectrum tech, because all the other useful colors were accounted for, the Controllers managed to lose the only Avarice Fountain to Larfleeze, and their primary researcher/specialist went into a coma for billions of years on a gamble.


    Okay, but I'd advise caution because that's getting into wibbly wobbly, timer wimey stuff, which Zoat might make non-canon for reasons. Don't forget what happened to New 52.
     
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  8. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    No, do forget what happened to New 52.

    Unlike DC, I'm pretty much the only person writing in With This Ring. Actual DC canon produces all sorts of stupidity and contradictions. So I decide what's canon and I try to make it make sense in terms of the other canon I've established.

    In the featured image, what Sinestro did is possible. Kyle just failed a big focus and isn't actively resisting, while Sinestro is a very powerful Green Lantern.
     
  9. Jirachi

    Jirachi I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    So fluffy... So slice of life. It's so cute.
    Also, I kind of wonder how grief works when you are enlightened...
    I wonder if Guy's enlightenment (or whatever it is that makes him have green quotation marks) is enough for him to also have the same ability to kind of perceive godspeech that Paul has.
    Might be worthwhile for Paul to try to figure out how to teach enlightenment with the orange-battery linked controllers, since I'm reasonably sure they aren't at the mo but are probably the most attuned to the orange light of all possible candidates.
    I wonder if the Orange Lantern Corps will have problems with the lanterns continuing to properly keep wanting to destroy the reach with there original passion, after a good amount of fighting, since once it becomes the standard slog, or just your job or such, it's quite easy to lose passion.
    ...Wait, the meeting with the zamorans already happened? I though that they were going to talk over such things and try to figure out an angle before then...
    It is probably possible and worthwhile to do a Shazam-style empowerment using Blaze's (as well as Adom and his gods) knowledge of the process and the power of a few of the gods that Paul has the support of (Eris? Vulcan? Ophidian?). Heck, considering the beings the original marvels and Ibac draw power from, I suspect there's a far wider pool of empowering candidates than just a few gods.
     
  10. Buggy123

    Buggy123 I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Trust me, i'm no more a fan of mainstream DC canon anyway, for those exact reasons.

    I mentioned New 52 as a way to point out :
     
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  11. Onion

    Onion Making the rounds.

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    Hey Zoat, I'm curious, are you keeping up with the current wonder woman storyline dealing with hades and hecate?
     
  12. Mr Zoat

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    Sadly that would be impossible, as DC have not published Wonder Woman comics for several years.
     
  13. Onion

    Onion Making the rounds.

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    Oop, i meant justice league dark... i think, the whole destruction of magic bit with hecate
     
  14. Maxx Crowley

    Maxx Crowley I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    I can't tell if Zoat is being snarky, with DC publishing crap he is ignoring, or if they really aren't publishing Wonder Woman. I bring it up, because I remember reading something that declared that, by the deal signed when they acquired the rights to the character, they have to publish her at least once in a set time frame, or they lose the rights to her back to her creators estate.

    Welcome to the hotel Vaermina. You can check out any time you like, but he will never leave.

    Blatantly petty is half of his shtick.

    Well, admittedly, I"ve never seen power rings do as much fleshcrafting/self healing as Zoat has his do. Granted, this is another case of Zoat taking the ring's power to a logical conclusion that normal DC authors either don't think about, or just actively ignore because they don't want to have to muss with it.

    Also, keeping your ring in your body sounds like a good idea, until it runs out of charge during a time when you can't charge it, and now you're just stuck with a ring wrapped around a rib.

    Plus, just taking a power ring off a user's finger is notoriously wibbly wobbly. Sometimes you can, and other times that sucker is cemented on there. I recall a Bat-God moment when Robin just swipes Hal's ring off his finger when Hal is actively doing Lantern shit, and then nearly kills him. Or another when Hal goes "So you don't have any powers?" and Bruce just steals the ring right off his finger with a smug grin because Batman fanboys are writing everything now. Because badass normals are just so god damn badass and people with powers are just lame, helpless losers. Plus, DC was actively punking Green Lantern at that time. His whole role was just to get made fun of.
     
  15. Stsword

    Stsword Versed in the lewd.

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    Lol.

    If you had ever read Darkstars you'd know that the Controllers don't even trust the darkstars with an independent power supply.

    The "screw the Controllers" suits have a mini black hole as a power source, and have enough gravity manipulation to not only fly, but send energy blasts back at the people who fired them.

    The maser technology can also be reversed to absorb energy instead of projecting it as shown in Adam Strange, so that list for darkstar powers are- Superstrength, armor, force fields, energy blasts, energy absorption, flight, and gravity manipulation.

    Cosmic rod- force field, energy blasts, energy absorption, flight, gravity manipulation, huh, that list is awfully familiar.....
     
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  16. Steelplaza

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    Kind of weird to see discussion/bagging on the New 52. That was eight years ago, and DC long ago backtracked on a lot of what they were doing in it.

    The latest DC relaunch was Rebirth and even that was 2-3 years ago.

    To make this post relevant, the DC character I like most who has never shown up in WtR (according to a thread search I just did on story only):

    Metamorpho

    Come on, he's a tomb raider with incredible powers that he rarely even comes close to exploiting, and the Orb of Ra seems to have no real limitation on the number of people it could potentially turn into Element People if they were willing to trade flesh-and-blood bodies for metamorpho bodies.
     
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  17. Maxx Crowley

    Maxx Crowley I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Man, I know people who are still extraordinarily pissed at the Spider-man Clone Saga. First and especially the second. Say "Maximum Carnage" around them at your own peril. Know another guy that literally punched his monitor hard enough to break it when he saw a Venom Trailer.

    Metamorpho has one major issue against him.

    He looks stupid as all hell. Like...REALLY stupid. Like, who the fuck designed this an who the fuck okay'd it after that?

    As for his powers, one of DC's long standing problems is something like...80 some percent of their entire cast library could casually snap planets in half if you really thought about it.
     
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  18. FreeGod

    FreeGod If you see a God on the road fuck it!

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    Should not be a problem. The reach tend to provide a steady stream of atrocities to keep up motivation. Also they have lots of nice stuff.
    Earth is often unreasonably overpowered on the universal scale. Earth is the place where elder gods get beaten up all the time. How many planets do you think that Darkside has failed to invade in the past?
     
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  19. Gilhelmi

    Gilhelmi Know what you're doing yet?

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    Good news. OL hates stupid costumes with a passion...... I mean he did completely revise Princess Diana's fashion don't, and burned Superman's pants-on-the-outside to ash.
    I doubt Metamorpho's costume would last more than a single story arc before an "accident" befell it.

    Thank God none of these idiots wear 2-4 inch heels or I would be begging Mr. Zoat to destroy them as well. (Heels are for fashion, NOT combat......... Unless you are a horse archer/riflemen then 1/2 inch is useful to get a better footing on the stirrups. Like cowboy boots.) I swear, I have lost my voice yelling at Justice League Action and RWBY (and others) because of "fashion" heels.
     
  20. BR549

    BR549 This is filth! FILTH!!

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    And then there's One More Day, which still has Linkara one-man-boycotting anything Spidey until it's permamently undone, not just retconned, retgone, and he's fully aware that's about as likely to happen as my dating Carol Ferris.

    Magic, it's a wonderful thing.
     
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    Gilhelmi Know what you're doing yet?

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    Short to Mid term, I agree. But every time the Reach is pushed back, newly liberated worlds will need Orange Lanterns to help rebuild.

    Pushing them back might end up being an invasion of Russia. You have to keep lengthen your supply lines, they will be shortening theirs. Maybe even turning a few worlds to glass in-order to slow allied advances. If they withdraw smartly, they could have a very dense, nearly impenetrable defense of their core system. Perhaps even a multi-century war.

    Sure the motivation might be there, but without backup and many different ways to bypass anti-lantern technology, the allied progress will come to an end.
     
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  22. FreeGod

    FreeGod If you see a God on the road fuck it!

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    Lanterns don't need much in the way of supplies.
     
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    Stsword Versed in the lewd.

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    Actually the problem seems to be that Metamorpho doesn't know enough alchemy to look normal.

    Megistus has the full chemical shapeshifting trick and he looks completely human when he isn't using it.

    The implication isn't that Megistus is a Metamorphae, but that his knowledge of alchemy just gives him the same power.

    I figure if enough alchemy can let someone turn his fists into kryptonite, then enough alchemy could turn the stuff Metamorpho is made out of into flesh and blood.

    Although one possible hack I thought of was transforming people who have their own shapeshifting abilities.

    Take a martian for example, I kinda figure a Martian Metamorphae would still be able to look like flesh and blood when they want.

    Oh as for looking stupid, in Multiversity Metamorpho's daughter has a different look going for her
    - [​IMG]
     
  24. Gilhelmi

    Gilhelmi Know what you're doing yet?

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    Yes they do. Not food, air, munitions or anything of the like. No, they NEED backup against the Reach.

    Remember, the Reach does have Anti-Lantern technology. This is why the Green Lanterns had to come to a draw with them.

    For any successful attack you will need to use the Fleet they are now building, in conjunction with the Darkstars, to push past and disable or distract the Anti-Lantern stuff. There is a reason that Beatles are feared among the Darkstars. (IIRC they retreat when they have the option. Most of the time, death awaits those who fight a Beatles)
     
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  25. Zig

    Zig Not too sore, are you?

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    4: Remember when Paul called the ring from Trugg's and it took the finger with it? Imagine that but with a rib.
     
  26. Mquz

    Mquz Versed in the lewd.

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    They’re sometimes practical. If you have some sort of gadget in them - whether a dagger/spike, gun (think Bayonetta) , rockets, or anti-grav device, heels allow for a few cubic inches of hollowed out storage space to store a gadget in. Especially when you might as well be using magic / tech / super-agility to basically fly anyways, you don’t need your feet to balance.
     
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  27. PDV

    PDV Revelation That Uncertainty Is Itself An Answer

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    Depends on the state. The one thing that is consistent is that you cannot be both a Senator and a member of the cabinet simultaneously; there's a constitutional prohibition on being members of more than one branch of the federal government at once. (This would be approximately as big a Knowledge(Murica) failure as that one scene in The Sound Of Drums. It also applies to the Supreme Court, though that rarely came up and never does these days.)

    In general, there is a by-election the following November to hold the seat for the rest of the term, with an appointee in the interim. But accordingly to in-state politics, anything from "appointee serves out remainder of term until the normal election" to "an election is held 90 days from the date the Senator resigns, the seat is empty until then" is possible. The current most aggressive election-holding, to the best of my knowledge, is Massachusetts, where Democrats control state politics but the governor is frequently Republican anyway; there, to minimize the governor's influence over the Senate, "law requires a special election to be held on a Tuesday, no fewer than 145 days, nor more than 160 days from the date of office vacancy, on a date determined by the governor".
     
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    Vaermina Well worn.

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    You forgot magnetic field manipulation, energy constructs, matter manipulation, FTL travel, variable radiation generation, dimensional travel, and mental attunement that allows you to control it with your mind.
     
  29. Steelplaza

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    At that point you can take out the "realistic" outcome on the one hand or the "this is a comic book universe after all" on the other hand.

    The "realistic" outcome is that Reach sues for peace, which if they get it will likely be on much more restrictive terms than they got from the Guardians because they did much worse in the war. Ideal outcome, there's some alternative social forces within Reach Society that the OL Corps can elevate in a regime change rather than forcing the same old leaders to begrudgingly accept restrictions.

    The "this is a comic book universe" outcome is that would be unsatisfying and not fit the DC universe, so instead the OL discovers a magic "I win" weak point they can hit and bring down the entire Reach in a down-to-the-wire final battle.
     
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    Mr Zoat

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    I take the bowl of porridge off my tray like some sort of caveman and put it down on our table. Then I repeat the process with my glass of orange jui-.

    Artemis gives me a condescending look. "What are you doing?"

    I smile at her. "Normalcy."

    "You're out of practice."

    "Yes."

    I stow my tray on an unused chair with the rest, then pull up my own chair and sit down. Next, I open up the little sachet of honey -no golden syrup here- and pour it into the porridge. Normally we all go home for breakfast, but Paula suggested this for our expanded group. Ugh, and the honey's.. sticking to the sachet and.. I can't get the spoon in…

    "…but you're keeping his name?"

    Paula nods at Karon's comment. "Yes. It's on all of my paperwork. I am used to it now. And it would not be fair to judge the rest of his family by Lawrence's behavior."

    "And I'd find calling you 'Tuyet Nguyen' really weird."

    Holly looks confused. "I thought you were called 'Paula'. I'm.. sorry-."

    Paula shakes her head with a quiet laugh. "Lots of people from Asia take Western names for the sake of convenience. I've been 'Paula' for even longer than I've been 'Crock'."

    "So you don't, like, mind?"

    Paula smiles, shrugging. "No. Why should I?"

    "Ah… I.. guess. It.. just… I mean, I wouldn't pick a new name if I moved to Vietnam."

    Paula raises her eyebrows. "Are you sure? You don't want me to choose one for you? I think you would make a delightful Hau Li."

    Holly focuses her eyes on her bagel. "Er… No."

    "Hey, Paul." I look over to Artemis. "I was wondering something."

    "And what was that?"

    "I was talking to Wally about names. If you and Jade do get married, is she taking yours or are you taking hers?"

    "Why, does Artemis West not work for you and you want moral support? Because I don’t think Wallace Crock sounds any better."

    Karon shakes her head. "Who's 'Wally'?"

    "The guy I'm dating."

    Paula looks mildly concerned. "Artemis..?"

    "No, we're not-. Getting married, Mom. It just.. came up."

    "Would I take her name?"

    Four sets of female eyes swing my way, and Artemis nods.

    "Would I take her name..? Over the name that not only can I not say, not only can I not think, but I haven't actually even been able to communicate to anyone?"

    "Oh." Artemis dips her eyes. "Yeah."

    "Yes, yes I would. As long as she agrees to rationalise the spelling."

    "Rational-?" Artemis frowns, then nods. "Right."

    Holly frowns. "So you'd be Paul Crock?"

    Paula shakes her head. "Jade uses my maiden name. Nguyen."

    "What's wrong with 'Win'?"

    "The person who came up with romanisations for Vietnamese pictograms was some sort of moron, that's what. 'Win' is spelt En-Gee-You-Why-Ee-En."

    Holly blinks. "Huh?"

    "Yes, that was my response the first time I saw it written down as well. I was thinking… Double Ewe-Why-En-En?" I look at Paula and raise my eyebrows interrogatively.

    She shrugs and shakes her head. "If you like? If that is how you feel then I think you should talk to Jade about it."

    "Of all the things I worry about in our relationship, what name we might pick is a long way down the list." I look at Holly and Karon. "What about you two? I don't know how it works with lesbians."

    Holly and Karon exchange an awkward glance, then Karon wobbles her head from side to side.

    "There isn't a rule. I guess… People just do what works for them, I think… Just keep our own names..?"

    Holly nods. "I think… Yeah? I wouldn't-" She turns to face Karon. "-mind if it mattered to you, but.. I'd… Find it weird? Changing my name?" Holly looks at me. "So what happens if you get your name back?"

    "Then Jade and I would have to have an actual conversation about it. But since my family is still back on Earth Prime… That connection is much less important."

    And I'm not really all that fond-.

    I catch myself before my face hits the bowl. Karon looks concerned while Holly lets out a surprised snort of laughter. "You been running too hard?"

    "And now I'm going to stop talking about this, because thinking about my name makes me faint."

    I start working my way through my bowl. It's… Eh. One of the problems with my ring enhancements is that it makes cooking well extremely easy. So restaurants just… Don't have that much appeal, let alone cafés like this. Oh, these things are sent to try us.

    "Paul?" Karon pushes aside her cereal bowl. "Could you.. tell me something?"

    "I can tell you many things. Can you be more precise?"

    A minor eye-roll. "Have you ever checked out anyone in front of Jade and told her about it?"

    Holly sags slightly. "Karon, I said I was sorry."

    "No, I-. I don't want to be over-sensitive about this? I know you're more open about.. physical attraction than I am, and… I don't want to be a bitch about it."

    "You're not, it's-."

    I nod. "Yes."

    "Oh." Karon frowns while Holly looks mildly curious. "Who?"

    I nod at Paula. "I mean, it's nice to know that I'll still find Jade attractive when she's fifty, but she's told me-"

    Karon's eyes widen and Holly tries to find the breath to giggle. Paula shakes her head while Artemis cringes.

    "-that it makes her uncomfortable if I keep doing it, so aside from the occasional joke I've stopped. Actually, Paula, now that you're a free woman-."

    "You are dating my daughter."

    "Not me, but have you thought about dating again?"

    Paula blinks in what I'm reasonably sure is affected surprise. "What makes you think I'm not dating now?"

    I smile as Artemis cringes further.

    "Who's the lucky person?"
     
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