With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Seeing Renegade using emotion to fight Anti-Life and the fact he's not gone full on Orange to the degree of core timeline Paul makes me wonder if we'll see more Lights in the future. Not necessarily as far as becoming a White Lantern, but getting enough rings to constitute a reasonable emotional range seems like a good way to contain his Anti-Life fragment and ready himself for a potential conflict with Darkseid.

 

Well, the battle's done and you kinda won, soo.... Sound your victory cheer?

 

IIRC he's the Business-Paul. Peter Wynne, the dude hiring villains.

 

No, thats the eath 12 Paul

 

The Anti-Life Equation being the dark side of the Source didn't prevent Scott from knowing the Anti-life Equation in Death of the New Gods.

 

Well that depends on how reasonable highfather is planning on being

 

As mentioned, that's Paul on Earth 12, the mainline DCAU Earth. Earth 50 is the Justice Lords Earth.

 

“Why is it that the cruel always believe they have a monopoly on ruthlessness?”

 

ohhh, i like that one- one of your own, or a reference my brain missed?
got one i like myself-
to quote Commodore Terekhov from Honour Harrington:
"Why is it that people like you always think you're more ruthless than people like me?", after responding to a threat to execute civilian hostages with a precision orbital strike....

 

Gilgamesh Wulfenbach has a few words to say on the subject. (Link 1) (Link 2)

 

Tarvek's Anti-heroic version is also..rather intimidating: http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20110117

 

That’s actually exactly what I was referencing, I just couldn’t recall the exact wording.

 

Not really. There's still a gordanian fleet out there, and it's unlikely that Grayven 50 has left the ship.

 

You mean the one that is not linked in the first page of this thread?

 

that would be because in the comics Scott contains a full copy of the anti-life equation.
The source seemed to enjoy the Irony of giving the god of freedom the ultimate means of enslavement.

Well Grayven-5o has now known fear and it's just the beginning of his shitty day.

 

[Stares at the first post on the thread a bit, particularly the spoiler-blocked part labled 'Spoiler: Story FAQ']

What?

 

DeSaad

No, it's one equation with some associated variable substitutions and identities. We don't say "E=mc² where c=speed of light, m=mass, E=energy" is four equations.

Is this supposed to be 'sarcophagus' or does Apokolips have boxes that consume their occupants? Given the capital letter and the way Apokolips does things, the latter really wouldn't surprise me whatsoever...

 

Bold of you to assume Doc Impossible would die so quickly and easily.

That Grayven would let him.

 

I'm pretty sure self=null in the anti-life equation.

It translates pretty well to real life too. I've seen studies that indicate that the more martial arts training you have the less likely you are to actually get into a fight (other than martial arts competitions, of course, but those don't count since they're not real fights).

 

Nope.

The second, more or less.

 

Huh. Desaad-50 writes his name differently than DeSaad-16?

 

Self=Null is part of it. It's cropped up in this story, IIRC, only in conjunction with people who've been exposed to the antilife and brainwashed into mindless drones.

Self=Darkseid has also made an appearance, but only when Darkseid himself has also made an appearance. It appears to be the result of him incorporating a fragment of the equation into himself.

 

No. It's supposed to be 'Desaad' but sometimes I forget.

 

Zoat, while I have you, why did we never get the Captain Marvel/Billy Batson discussion with the SI about Nabu, I was looking forward to that but we skimmed over it before the fight where they rescued Adom's brother-in-law from the anti-life

 

But they aren't substitutions;

The variables despair, caution, love, truth, death, rebirth, self, and light side are not used anywhere in the rest of the equation. They aren't associated with the first equation at all, or with each other, so they're separate equations.

Also, now that i look at it further, there's a fair bit of ambiguity with the order of operations because of how its laid out. It might simplify to:



Hmm... from googling, I think the most correct way to simplify it is...

which condenses into



...Would it have killed Highfather to use some parentheses? Or even some better formatting, at least? He has Mother Boxes, he can get one of them to teach him bloody LaTeX.

 

Is that concept (and word) your own invention or something from DC canon? It reminds me a bit of the Blood Angels' use of what are basically high-tech vampire-esque coffins; I'm wondering if that was an inspiration.

I would have liked to have seen that as well, as well as honestly every other member (or at least most of them). Black Canary would have been especially good to see, given her role as counselor for the Team. But I imagine it would be tiresome to write Paragon having generally the same counter-arguments and reactions to everyone. There was a bit of discussion of it with the Team as a whole, but it was still kind of glossed over, though there are some good moments like Paragon's "what burden?" response to Kaldur.

On another note, the thought occurs to me that Mr Zoat may write/create another iteration of the SI who landed in a world where season 3 is included in canon (though I hear season 4 is on the horizon so it's probably best to wait). I asked before how things would have changed in WtR if season 3 was canon, with the answer that not much, but I think knowing the Light's true motivations, even if their practices don't represent the most optimal or intelligent way to realize their goals, could change a lot of how they deal with Paragon's capabilities and feats (though given season 3's horrendous treatment of Luthor I'm fine if this doesn't happen). I may have said this before, but most of the great YJ fics were or are being written before season 3 was released so it would be interesting to see any new ones and how they would deal with new/expanded source material.

 

They're based on what Desaad did to Mortalla, but the name is 'original'.

No.

The nearest I've come to that is imagining how the post-WTR SI and Truggs would cope if they were forced to jump tracks.

Batman burned the youth team to win a social media pole. Lex has nothing to complain about.

 

I think Red M'Gann had a revelation like that when she and Grayven (and a few others, for a field trip, I think) were on Mars.

 

I get a feeling Darkseid is going to regret giving Grayven that fragment.

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