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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. DrThoth

    DrThoth I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    If White Rabbit is from post-Flashpoint then why would Zoat be using her? Unless there’s an older individual with the same moniker.
     
  2. Shotiegun11

    Shotiegun11 Know what you're doing yet?

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    Perhaps.

    We have to go deeper.
     
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  3. nobodez

    nobodez Bringer of Context

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    Well, there's a Shadowpact villain and a John Henry Irons villain that both use the name "White Rabbit", but neither of them are Alice in Wonderland themed or based out of Gotham like Ms. Hudson of the Biofission fame.
     
  4. DAT_NOOB

    DAT_NOOB Accused of writing in a far away land

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    Zoat uses post-flashpoint characters all the time. the thanagarian mercenaries on tamaran for example.
     
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  5. hance1986

    hance1986 A pitiful excuse for a man.

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    should be ' Luthor '
     
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  6. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Thank you, corrected.
    You don't know they weren't around pre-Flashpoint. There were plenty of crowd-scenes they could have been in.
     
  7. Tzeentch

    Tzeentch I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Yeesh, might as well throw in "The Mighty Endowed" into the mix.
     
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  8. Nervaqus987

    Nervaqus987 Well worn.

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    No, that's someone more appropriate for Grayven to deal with.
     
  9. DAT_NOOB

    DAT_NOOB Accused of writing in a far away land

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    Whaat I thought you loved post-flashpoint DC? especially the New 52.
     
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  10. Prince Charon

    Prince Charon Just zis guy, you know?

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    By 'deal with,' do you mean 'laugh at?'
     
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  11. Threadmarks: Guys from Gotham (part 8)
    Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    16th February
    23:48 GMT -5


    "I'm glad I didn't have plans this evening."

    I note that the police who are loading the gang members into the van are highly experienced in applying straitjackets to uncooperative future-patients. I tried unmuzzling 'Alice' for a little while, but there are only so many insane rants a person can listen to.

    Detective Foley nods sympathetically. "You got work tomorrow?"

    "I make my own hours, and I don't have any meetings scheduled."

    That earns me a smile which is significantly less sympathetic. "Alright for some."

    "If you want an orange power ring, you're welcome to go through our training process. We've only driven seventeen people insane so far."

    Dox's prognosis -or rather, the prognosis Dox passed on- was that most of them will recover. Shorn of contact with the orange light their minds should be able to return to equilibrium, though obviously it will never be safe to let them wield an orange ring again. I.. don't know exactly the 'drop out' rate I was expecting, but… Honestly, I'm a little surprised it's gone this well.

    "They all singing 'New York New York' too?"

    "Little more serious than that."

    He looks away. "Yeah, I guessed. Think I'd handle it better?"

    I stare at him, my eyes flaring orange. Um. Gosh, how the heck did a well balanced individual end up on the Gotham police force? Strands of orange light within reasonable bounds, restrained by socialisation. There's no real core to his identity, no one thing I can point to as his defining characteristic. More green than average, but not exceptionally so. Probably a consequence of having a job that routinely involves confrontation. In the event of an orange light surge… Probably nothing worse than petty selfishness. But at the same time, he lacks the mechanisms to channel the orange light well.

    I blink the glow away.

    "Yes, probably. But not particularly well, without significant retraining."

    He shrugs. "Probably couldn't get the time off work anyways."

    "So, again, do you still need me..?"

    "The mayor's gunna want to thank you, but he can do that tomorrow. Far as I'm concerned you can go. We know how to get in touch if we've got any other questions."

    I nod, wave my right hand and then raise it to my forehead. Alright, where's Selina?

    "…quietly as you can."

    I'm in a.. small room, an unconscious albino laying on the floor next to an open reinforced door. A mildly dishevelled crowd is creeping out and down a corridor at Selina's urging. Recent abductees? Not a lot of Caucasian faces. Racial targeting or targets of opportunity amongst the unregistered immigrant community?

    "Catwoman?"

    She looks my way, for a second going into a combat pose before recognising me and returning to her previous level of alertness.

    "Can you get them out faster?"

    Hm. My vision is being blocked, radio.. also being blocked.

    "Where are we?"

    The liberated prisoners stop, making way as Selina walks over to me.

    "Underneath the Breed Building."

    "And why are we being quiet?"

    "Guards. One of them was a dog made of darkness. I think there's something magical going on."

    I nod. "Are you wearing the spell eater-?"

    She nods, smiling. "Never leave home without it."

    "Quickest way out is for me to cut a tunnel through the ground. Lots of noise and collateral damage. Or I can fly us out the way you came in, which any competent wizard will have warded."

    "How good are you at fighting ancient sorcerers?"

    "Really good. The older the better, really; they're less likely to have kept themselves up to date."

    I can see the patterns of activity as she thinks it over. While perfectly capable of acts of selflessness, Selina isn't a superhero. She doesn't have the burning need to shove her hands into fires that they… That we do. Given the opportunity to do what she set out to -rescue these people- she's perfectly happy to leave the rest to a professional.

    She turns to the crowd. "Anyone up for running away really quickly?"

    Several nods, a few of the braver ones even smile. I redon my armour, switching out a few of the anti-telepathy systems for the newer magic-baffles. With three rings' worth of power to draw on the cost of putting things like that in subspace is much less of a problem than it used to be, and something about Larfleeze's ring makes it easier still. Age, perhaps? Prolonged contact with the Ophidian? Don’t know.

    I generate a large and -due to the space requirements- somewhat flattened crumbler gauntlet construct. They don't usually make much noise, but I'll add a suppressor anyway. And up it goes, cutting a steep tunnel out through the Gotham… Soil, right, transmuting some supports to keep the tunnel intact. The braver prisoners are edging towards the construct-.

    Selina smiles as she takes the lead.

    "Let's not stick around while a Lantern fights an ancient sorcerer. I doubt digging a giant tunnel under a skyscraper made this place any safer."

    And with her in the lead and a worried glance at the ceiling, they're on their way. I cancel the construct as it punches its way through the street outside the lobby. I sliced through some power cables, but this whole building is going to need to be mystically decontaminated anyway

    "Huh. You took down White Rabbit. I wonder if his feet are luckier than the rest of him?"

    A woman with white hair and wearing a black mask, tight-fitting black t-shirt and black cycle shorts walks through the door.

    "I doubt it. He was taken down by Catwoman. Are you the hierophant of this little cult?"

    She blinks, confused. "Hierowhat?"

    That sounds like a 'no'.

    "Alright. Take me to your leader so I can beat him, her or it into a stupor and get on with my day."

    "Yeah, no." Her body begins to disintegrate, the blackness around her taking on a new shape as it does so. "I-."

    My world darkens as my photon cannon shoots her in the face-

    "AAAIIIIIEEEEEE!"

    -and she collapses to the ground, her shadow construct failing and her human body returning. Interesting. I knew there were other people who could draw power from the Shadowlands, but I hadn't specifically heard of this one before. I take a dimensional stabiliser out of subspace along with a set of manacles and start binding her.

    Now, while I could probably handle whoever's running the show myself, I suppose that it wouldn't hurt to have some expert advice.

    Ring, phone John Quinn.
     
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  12. Queshire

    Queshire Not too sore, are you?

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    Rude OL! Don't you know that you're never supposed to interrupt a transformation sequence?
     
  13. AverusBlack

    AverusBlack AKA Aisling

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    Lol, Paul just shows up in places where Gotham is having issues and just strolls right on through their bullshit like 'toodaloo, motherfuckers.'.

    EDIT: Actually, while I'm thinking of it, where was this thing that mentioned yellow light creation? The FAQ? I took a quick look at Zoat's sig but didn't see it and I'm outta the loop
     
  14. Chojin Patriarch

    Chojin Patriarch Veteran Lurker

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    Mostly variations of "I'll get you for this!" no doubt.

    Eh, the mental requirements are kind of extensive... 'High stress' doesn't even begin to cover it.

    Presumably the Ophidian is doing something to mitigate the effects. She's probably loving seeing all the different Wants anyway.

    In much the same way that not everyone can manage to focus the Green light. In Green Lantern: Rebirth, Green Arrow manages to make a single arrow construct, and he described it as 'like running a marathon', I believe.

    Dedicated guy, ain't he?

    I'm sure Alice will never appear again anytime soon. :rolleyes:

    And there's the White Rabbit. Mr Zoat didn't lie.

    All business. Nice to see.

    I'd say the building looks suspicious from the architecture, but this is Gotham, home of Gothic architectural fever dreams straight from the Absinthe-addled minds of Byronic madmen...

    Welp, definitely something supernatural.

    Never assume your entry method is still available.

    Admittedly, OL doesn't have nearly as much experience as the Renegade does...

    A handy bonus for investing deep in the Light Shaman skill tree, especially on the Orange branch.

    Ah, Selina, so sensible. If only more heroes were so inclined.

    Ugh, busted.

    OL, please don't annoy the unknown metahuman/magic-user with your vocabulary. It never works out well.

    Rule of combat #whatever: Never use a transformation with a time cost larger than instant in reach of a hostile.

    Heh, someone OL doesn't remember from the comics. Not that common.

    OL uses Summon Backup: Info-gathering. Will it be super-effective?

    Well, the thread was asking for action. Time to get messy.
     
  15. Someguy Somewhere

    Someguy Somewhere The Critical Fumbler

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    Aww...no biofission bunny....with catwoman around to heckle that would have been good fun. Still, This looks like the Shadowpact's counterparts, which seems odd. They didn't form to counter that team....I mean while we've got Blue Devil around and maybe a few of the others we're clearly down a Dete-........wait a minute.......Zoat you magnificent bastard!
     
  16. Z000

    Z000 If this is trash, then find me in the dumpster

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    care to share

    some of us don't know these setting that well
     
  17. AtomicGeneral25

    AtomicGeneral25 Insert Creativity Here

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    You know one of these days someone is actually going to take him up on that offer.

    Three rings? He's got his original, Larfleeze's ring, and he gave Stewarts ring to Hinon, When did he get a third?

    Hahaha, funny how developing new techniques turns that "more ancient; more powerful" trope on it's head!
     
  18. Alasnuyo

    Alasnuyo I am always here

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    I think he kept the dragon Karfang's ring?
     
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  19. Handlewithcare

    Handlewithcare Versed in the lewd.

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    "I draw power from the most mystcal lands of the shadow, my form is ephemeral, my power knows no..."

    "PHOTON CANNON!"
     
  20. Ganurath

    Ganurath Apologizes For Nothing

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    For those who need reminding, John Quinn is the civilian name of the current Doctor Fate.
     
  21. Z000

    Z000 If this is trash, then find me in the dumpster

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    Lich Dragon awhile back
     
  22. Sockmonkey

    Sockmonkey I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Detective Chimp.
    Bobo, the chimp made intelligent by the thinking cap in this story will become a detective apparently.
     
  23. The Vale

    The Vale Know what you're doing yet?

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    I didn't recognise this name - for a minute I thought he might have called on Richard Swift since I couldn't remember his name either (he was a mostly not-evil semi in good standing guy in this timeline right?), but that seemed like it might be a touch of the nuclear option.
     
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    Stsword Versed in the lewd.

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    The current Dr Fate after Constantine supposedly gave the helmet to him.
     
  25. Tzeentch

    Tzeentch I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    The ones that DO such as Thessaly, or Frau Totenkinder from a few parallel universes over, are the ones to avoid conflict with at all costs

    Though considering Doctor Gotham's been listening to the world move on these past forty millennia, he MIGHT be somewhat in their league. Man's got a collection of magical artifacts to draw power from that might make Gilgamesh jealous.
     
  26. DrThoth

    DrThoth I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    So does this White Rabbit have any supernatural abilities? The wiki link just said swordsmanship but I assume being a member of a magic cult/group there’s more to it than that. How big a role did Catwoman’s Spell Eater play in her victory?
     
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  27. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    He only showed up once, and nothing other than being an extraordinaryly skillful swordsman with a magic sword is mentioned. His opposite number in the Shadowpact similarly had no other abilities.

    The spell eater prevented the defensive spells killing her. Sneaking up on White Rabbit was pure skill.
     
  28. Someguy Somewhere

    Someguy Somewhere The Critical Fumbler

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    Sockmonkey got where I was heading Z000. Didn't want to be too loud because if true then it might spoil the fun for others. If true then I have to tip my hat to Zoat for playing a very looong game with something that could just be a bit of fun into a key plot point.

    Detective Chimp, is a Detective, whom is also a Chimp.

    Shocking I know.

    But sometimes folks don't need the whole 'Lord of the Thirteen Hells, Master of the Bones, Emperor of the Black and Mayor of a little village up the coast' level of titles when it comes to hero work.

    He's a sleuth on par with the Bat, when it comes to deductive logic and reason, but tends to hang out in far stranger places, which lead to his membership in a group known as the Shadowpact. A gang of some of the C list heros from the weirder side of the tracks within DC lore.

    Chimp's 'name' is Bobo T. Chimpanzee in the comics.

    The Thinking Cap Test Primate that ran around Kordtech is named Bobo, and due to the experiments, is rather intelligent (8th Grade Level last I recall it was mentioned). Thus we may yet have an in universe origin for a version of the good Detective after all. We know Blue Devil exists, so that is at least 2 members of the 'Pact. With the recent showing of the mirror match versions of the other Shadowpact members (White Rabbit being Nightmaster's mirror, Sister Shadow being Nightshade's), we can infer the others exist as well.

    Recent events in WTR have been poking and prodding at the Religion of Crime story lines within DC. Shadowpact and other characters (the Kane Version of Batwoman for a prime example), have a big place within those stories comics wise. However as far as we can tell, while related groups like the Intergang and the Congregation have popped up, they haven't been shown onscreen being involved in events as they played out in DC. Reading between the lines with meta knowledge, you MIGHT be able to line things up, but Zoat's being rather sneaky with his placing of such dots to connect (kudos for that).

    Some characters that are linchpins in those tales are either missing, replaced by different versions, altered so as not to resemble the comic adaptation, or operating off screen unseen. But the events seem to be nosing in that direction regardless.

    Some, like Detective Chimp, are too silly for the 'gritty' Young Justice universe to throw out in their original formats, thus require a new explanation as to how they come to be, if they'll appear at all. We've seen a few characters in the Renegade and Paragon storylines that Pauls shanghai'ed into the plot deliberately because he knew of them and dragged them in because they existed.

    But if the Chimp is being functionally Created by Paul's actions....that's a bit strange in itself. Paul may or may not feature in Destiny of the Endless's Book, and thus his existence in the universe tends to derail things from predetermined paths. If Detective Chimp was always intended to exist, then he would appear in the book. But how does an element you can't predict create something you always knew existed?

    Things to Ponder.
     
  29. Someguy Somewhere

    Someguy Somewhere The Critical Fumbler

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    Oh Before I forget.....every time I hear OL using that thing, This is what comes to mind.
    [​IMG]
     
  30. Coda

    Coda Versed in the lewd.

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    That's positively different. </pun>
     
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