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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. Bigking321

    Bigking321 Not too sore, are you?

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    I know it's a simple and obvious joke, but it still got me to laugh.

    All I can think of is that guy from guardians of the galaxy threatening people.
     
  2. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    No, that's two words. The SI specifically said 'one word'.
    Yes, saying 'I hate Jews' indicates that the speaker is a bigot, in the same way that saying 'I hate Celts' or 'I hate Quakers' does. This is because it refers to membership of a group and not to any of the actions of the group.
    On the other hand, 'I hate the actions taken by Israel during the occupation of Lebanon' doesn't, and neither does 'I hate the actions taken by the Kingdom of Great Britain during the occupation of Ireland' or 'I hate pacifists', even if those things predominantly relate to a particular group.
     
  3. Mquz

    Mquz Versed in the lewd.

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    So ... good OL corps recruit or no? Probably not good control on greed
     
  4. FreeGod

    FreeGod If you see a God on the road fuck it!

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    There is currently no coherent consistent definition for race so this argument is pointless. Might as well call them a "kind".
     
  5. Ngamer11

    Ngamer11 Experienced.

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    People with no control on their greed are easier to assimilate, just look at Nabu in the Renegade timeline.
     
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  6. Mquz

    Mquz Versed in the lewd.

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    Have to argue on ‘I hate pacifists’ - that is a particular group with given beliefs and no particular action is specified. It is bigoted. Likewise, Celts are definitely a race - no specific shared beliefs/ traditions are too varied, and similar physical characteristics, so by given definition, that is racist, not bigoted.
     
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  7. Stsword

    Stsword Versed in the lewd.

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    The wiki got it wrong. Her flames burn people from the inside out through their deceptions, including self deceptions like pride or vanity. Hence Wonder Woman wasn't very burnt, deception being anathema to her nature, she hasn't accumulated a lot over her life. Although according to word of Greg YJ Diana had a secret identity in WW2, so YJ would have accumulated a bit more lies over the years......

    She spreads fear and hatred like a miasma around her, turning people against each other.

    She eats gold, and by so doing consumes the sins of mankind- deceit, murder, betrayal.

    In short, when it comes to sin, she's basically a fan of all seven.
     
  8. Mquz

    Mquz Versed in the lewd.

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    That’s gonna be interesting. Zoat was definitely thinking of a way to have the age thing come back to bite OL in the ass.

    A secret identity isn’t necessarily a lie. Especially if it’s not all that secret and used mainly to allow civilian life. Both Diana Prince and Wonder Woman could be true. Steve knew about her secret identity, and so probably did the government.
     
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  9. moralrelativity

    moralrelativity Recovering pendant.

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    Actually, Europe's wild animals are making a comeback. In this parallel, at least.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-24230765
     
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  10. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    The action specified is 'not use violence', because that is what the word means.
    Sure, but not to the level it was 1000 years ago.
     
  11. moralrelativity

    moralrelativity Recovering pendant.

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    True.
     
  12. BR549

    BR549 This is filth! FILTH!!

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    Basically, comeback or no, there is insufficient biomass to maintain a dragon's territory.

    Unless, of course, she starts snacking on long pig.
     
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  13. Stsword

    Stsword Versed in the lewd.

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    Her primary diet seems to be gold and gemstones, that's why the dracognomes were stealing them for her, as food.

    While she's shown eating both gnomes and cows, that might not be for dietary reasons, but just because she loves killing things.

    The more treasure a dragon consumes, the more evil they absorb, and she has eaten a lot of treasure.

    We're talking "kill everything on the planet seems like a fine hobby" territory.
     
  14. RichardWhereat

    RichardWhereat Aia airëa Fëanáro.

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    Sure, but the odds of the dragon deciding that the gnome is just an idiot, and attacking the only West Ham in England, is fairly high.
     
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  15. king_karasu

    king_karasu Actually a prince

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    Does OL hiding his comic knowledge count?
     
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  16. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    If a dragon is breathing fire at you, are you ever going to think 'nah, I'm honest, I can take it'?
     
  17. Stsword

    Stsword Versed in the lewd.

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    Only when he lied to keep it a secret, like when he claimed it was from his ring's sensors, and the like.

    Gravy would probably blow up in a myriad of pretty pretty colors what with his lying like a rug......
     
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  18. Sorrow

    Sorrow Getting sticky.

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    Except Graven actually believes his own lies, and therefore, is not actually lying. Even to himself..
     
  19. Stsword

    Stsword Versed in the lewd.

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    No, that would only make him burn worse. Self deception is just more fuel for the fire.

    If WW had pride in her heart instead of an honest self assessment, she'd have burnt up.
     
  20. Soul Shocker

    Soul Shocker Not too sore, are you?

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    Should go for EastWestHam instead.
     
  21. Impartial Panic

    Impartial Panic I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    So a female Dragon, Paul you poor poor bastard.
     
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  22. Lothlo

    Lothlo Not too sore, are you?

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    Everybody talking about if Paul will burn or not, while I am thinking if the dragon would be like the one on *Shrek* and make an appearance on the "Eros Verse* of this story.
     
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  23. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Drakul Karfang canonically ate sophonts and tortured people for fun. And also used mind control breath to cause towns to fall into anarchy and enslaved a species. The SI would want to be pretty certain that this version didn't want to do any of that before he would consider becoming involved with her.
     
  24. Eponymic

    Eponymic Getting sticky.

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    *Cough* DNA tests *Cough*
     
  25. rdfox

    rdfox Know what you're doing yet?

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    Think that should be "as heavily settled", actually.

    As for whether hating pacifists is bigoted, I'll just quote Tom Lehrer's introduction to his 1964 song "National Brotherhood Week":

    "I know there are people in this world who do not love their fellow man, and I hate people like that!"
     
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  26. Ardy

    Ardy I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    *Cough* there is no Star of David on any particular strand of DNA *cough*
     
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  27. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Thank you, corrected.
     
  28. PDV

    PDV Revelation That Uncertainty Is Itself An Answer

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    Cut it out with the Judaism argument before you summon the mods.

    I will add only that racism and bigotry are not mutually exclusive; racism is a subcategory of bigotry. This argument is dumb.
     
  29. Eponymic

    Eponymic Getting sticky.

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    Except there kinda is? The Davidic line is a thing.

    I recognize what you're trying to say, but you're stating as fact, a position that has been at significant debate.

    More than happy to continue via PM because some of this may touch rule 8.
     
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  30. Vaermina

    Vaermina Well worn.

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    Are these supposed to be Gnole's?
     
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