With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

At least we now know who public hero #1 on that Earth is.

Please tell me she still has her Happy End with Wee Hughie. Those two deserve it. Also, did Butcher not like Saul and try to kill him out of paranoia or not?

 

Actually, it's the pilot who was ordered off shooting down the plane that destroyed the Golden Gate Bridge. He's been on a lot of talk shows.

Yes, though unfortunately for her she's still with Vought-American American Consolidated, as he convinced her that things can be fixed.

Butcher was strongly considering it. Unfortunately, Saul submitted himself for arrest while he was killing Homelander and proceeded to heal the survivors of the attack on the Pentagon.

 

Hopefully it can be, but it probably won't. Maybe she should just ask if she can be in the same team as Saul.

 

The fact that Indigo Paul was probably the ONLY person that could be truly considered a superhero MUST have driven Butcher up a wall with paranoia.

HUGHIE: Maybe he actually IS that nice of a guy?

BUTCHER: BULLSHIT HE IS!

 

Not butcher, Stillwell.
James Stillwell tends to cover all his bases and Killing off Bradley so she can't talk isn't out of character.
He was probably counting on her trying to kill herself since he was setting her up as a patsy to begin with.

the worst part is she Knew he was going to do something like this when they both were pushing to be the new CEO.
Stillwell only put token effort because he knew things would blow up with Vic the Veep becoming president.
Homelanders rampage was a bit out of left field but he had contingencies in case that happened.
of course they were less put homelander down and more cover my own ass.

actually Voight or after the boys American Consolidated is in a bad spot.
everyone hates the "heroes", Stillwell had it hammered in his head that they were bad product,
Hughie is carrying on the Boys mission and has all the blackmail material they collected.

so things can get a lot worse for Voight.

IIRC the kids he's mentioning are the members of Super Duper minus Malchemical.
can't remember if Sauls girlfriend was the Voight Handler or aunty sis.

oh wow the G-men was a complete shit show, john godolkin fucked them up as kids and then they became monsters.
Voight "cleaned up" the mess by slaughtering the G-men and their Branch teams.
Although Saul may have prevented the Fate of the Pre wiz kids, I doubt Stillwell is about to push him on that.
beats shoving the kids in a shipping container and dropping them in the ocean around iceland.

Well I guess Silver may have a happier ending since she's alive and hopefully reunited with her father.
but the girls going to need all the therapy.

yeah the boys is pretty much a how horrible can we make the world of heroes.

 

Saul, Super Duper, Silver Kincaid, any surviving members of the G-Men, that Batman/Iron Man expy if Saul was able to cure his brain tumor and prevent his death, Starlight, and any other actually decent hero. That could make for a powerful and morally good team. Too bad Saul would never go for it.

 

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Though guns are a great leveller against low-mid tier supers. He killed a team prior to his augmentation with a gun and a bit of clever planning, and the US airforce won against Homelander's coup with depleted uranium and power-seeking missiles.

 

I was kind of hoping that Saul would cure Tek Knight's brain tumor.

Although I didn't read that particular bit, he was a Batman/Iron Man type, and unlike most "superheroes" in the Boys, he was "nice but boring."

Then he got a brain tumor and he became like one of those dogs that tries to hump everything that moves, and everything that doesn't move for that matter.

 

Well of course. If you aren't durable enough to stand up to gunfire, it doesn't really matter if you can shoot lightning out your face.

Admittedly, I would not consider that a "Fight" between a Normal person and a Super. Though I'm also used to, and have years of issues of, the US army throwing every god damn thing they can think of at the Hulk with little to nothing to show for it.

I don't know anything about this Homelander or his powers but if he's an evil bastard like several posts have suggested....I'm guessing....Superman analog?

 

There are degrees of analogue.

There are straight up rip-offs, there are 'Superman but' like Supreme Power's Hyperion, and then there's someone like the Plutonian who fulfils a somewhat similar role but very obviously isn't the same man.

Homelander's official Voight-American approved cover story is that he's from the first group. He's actually from the third, emblematic of the sort of lunacy and degeneracy which runs rampant through the The Boys superhuman community. Yes, he's an arsehole and by the end a mass murderer, but you can sort of see how he could have been better. Okay, we know from Flashpoint that if Superman had grown up in a bunker strapped to a nuclear bomb he'd still have been a nice guy, but Homelander has been told from birth that obeying Voight is good and that outside of that bubble he should indulge in whatever way he wants.

 

I WANT more Indigo Lantern.
I finally got the reference about Paul having sex with corpses.
Which considering the fact that he's in the Boys universe, doesn't surprise me not even a little. Though this entire thing was really funny to me. ''Hey! Wanna kill yourself? If you do, I'll violate your corpse!'' Shit had me cracking.
Hope to see more of Saul. Also wondering how's Power Ring doing.

 

Well, I think we can safely say OL's afterlife is not going to be consisting of rolling boulders up hillsides or getting his liver pecked out by vultures, no matter how pissed off Zeus may be at him.

I don't think Sacrifices are like society membership dues, where your membership can lapse if you aren't paid up. I think they are more like the difference between between being a member and being a member in good standing.

When Hades heard billions of new converts he spoke in the color of avarice, so they're obviously worth more than just bottle caps.

Theurgy Users; privileged connection to the Source. They were in the matrix rigs so Asmodel/Smiley could use that connection to spoof their own Theurgical permissions.

I'd suggest 'bare' as in 'bare him a child' as much more modern. 'Dam' sounds like something exclusively applicable to pets and livestock nowadays.

 

Bare is wrong - bear him a child, means carrying a child to term, so not quite the same thing as dam / sire. You can’t say “She is his bear”, but you can say “S(he) is his Dam/Sire.” Neither can you really say “she damed him”, but can say “s(he) bore / sired him.”

 

I thought it was in fools cannon, but apparently not cause I can't find it.
I think it was an omake or something.

 

You can say ‘she dammed him,’ I believe; this very fic has a part where Grayven explains his ‘family’ to the Amazons saying “Orion, dammed by Tigra” which is roughly the same structure.

 

Grayven visited the setting in an omake.

 

Looks like Paul is going to have his first real argument with the Controllers. Exactly how long ago was it when they made Effigy? I assume he was a failed attempt to create their own analogue of the GLC.

 

I'm finding the lack of corpse-fucking in this segment odd, but I think I'm coming around.

 

He's simple, He's not pratchett simple.

 

You know Paul... Lying to the guy who just finished an impassioned speech about how he detests liar's probably isn't the best idea...

 

I think OL's being metaphorical (as well as the Pratchett reference). If you have issues with many aspects of human behavior, there might be a root cause that would be a more appropriate target to focus on rather than all the individual bits that bug you.

 

You know, even though I disagree with quite a lot of Paul (and presumably Zoat's) philosophy, I do always enjoy reading these chapters. You have a way of presenting the ideas that enhances the story without being preachy.

 

"Alright. What did you think of the court process?"

Spoiler: Commentary spoilered for length

I was in prison for a quarter-year while they investigated events whose cause was readily apparent."

The local paper of the town that got torn up?

...the fact that most of the people he killed or crippled were from the area.

The joy of moral quandaries.

An informative question...

Indeed.

Wait, what?

And that says so much about OL. Deal with the cause, not the effect.

not 'an Ungaran'? Or is it some complex pronunciation that makes it count as a consonant?

And for once, the explosion is not at the END of the post...

Oh, this is going to be fun...

Hmm, suprisingly little wanting, if it's not orange.

Oh, not a good first impression...

Well, someone is going to have a lot of explaining to do...

 

Technically fire isn't a thing to be removed so much as a chemical reaction that affects other things.

But then again, this fire is made of philosophy. XD

 

Sounds kind of... Burning Martian-y.

Was there ever any followup on what the Controllers did with the surviving Burner in the ship he sent them? I couldn't find anything after the first Controller he met calling it a "fascinating specimen" from a cursory search of the story-only thread.

 

So did this guy fuck up Xor's ship as well?

Also, another human, really? Earth is ridiculous.

 

Hey now, Effigy is the Controller's fault.

They came to Earth to do cattle mutilation, some anal probing, and superempowering, you know, the usual alien things on an Earth holiday.

 

Thank you, corrected.