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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. Handlewithcare

    Handlewithcare Versed in the lewd.

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    I can't tell if they are believing him too quickly or not.

    He is a stranger, he has shown bullshit powers, this is 40k so very little doesn't happen anway...

    But thes are very blase about it either way. Which fits with the T'aus naive/arrogant behaviour, I suppose.
     
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  2. Dakkan Sall

    Dakkan Sall Random Encounter

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    Is this the intended word, or should it be "any more than"?
     
  3. OrigamiPhoenix

    OrigamiPhoenix Getting sticky.

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    Zoat himself doesn't know of evidence for sterilization. AFAIK, they only steamroll planets that pose a threat to the expansion of their empire.
     
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  4. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    He transmuted himself some clothes.
    Plenty. You might not be missed, but the line is really long.
    BROTHER! Or.. possibly SISTER! I never asked.
    In The Box.
    Gravalax.
    There's a canon Genestealer Cult that actually does this.
    They're only banned from mating with tau of other castes. There's probably one water caste xenosociologist who's curious enough to try it.
    Thank you, corrected.
    Thank you, corrected.
    If only because sterilising them is far more work.
     
  5. Stsword

    Stsword Versed in the lewd.

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    Lacking a soul, he doesn't have a soul to corrupt, and his ring would allow him to resist physical mutation.

    That is, as long as he stays soulless.

    However, considering how many alt.Pauls have gotten a soul, he might get one too.

    I'm not positive that it wouldn't happen eventually in any magic rich universe like the process with the tattoos, just much slower.

    Zoat stated that consuming demons gave Sybarite a soul, and if he didn't have the innate ability to grow a soul when there's energy available, why would he grow one by accident?
     
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  6. DAT_NOOB

    DAT_NOOB Accused of writing in a far away land

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    Wait if he can break into the emperor's throne room why didn't he?
     
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  7. Darko

    Darko Connoisseur.

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    Assimilating demons and whatever Sybarite did to become a half demon could be completely different, so maybe he'll just assimilate demons without gaining a soul.

    Breaking Into the throne room could be dangerous as the Emperor could try to attack him, or mind control him.
     
  8. lancelot

    lancelot Grand High Poobah

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    As you brought up aerosol dispersal, but it might just be an involuntary population control so they'll never be more zeno then Tau.

    No I remember reading this in one of the newer books. Multiple times a race that has joined the Tau aren't useful in of themselves, resources or some piece of tech and beyond that their useless. When that has happened some terrible 'accident' will happen before a useful breeding population can leave the planet and kills them all. The mourn the terrible loss but quickly leaving the old shit and put up strip malls and shit because the 'accident' never makes the planet uninhabitable.
     
  9. BR549

    BR549 This is filth! FILTH!!

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    Because Paul is smart enough that after he determines if he could, he stops to ask if he should.
    (Usually.)

    Bold of you to assume 'or'.
     
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  10. Mquz

    Mquz Versed in the lewd.

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    So since we’re getting back to ponies and unicorns...

    Lately, I’ve been reading the Laundry Files series of books by Charles Stross. It’s a sci-fi horror comedy series set in a Lovecraftian modern-day universe where the main character basically works for the British MIB. Anyway, one of the freely available short stories, Equoid, has probably the most horrifying kind of unicorn I’ve ever seen in any piece of literature. It’d be amazing to see something like it implemented in a MLP fic.
     
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  11. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Unfortunately, those things aren't clever enough.
     
  12. Simonbob

    Simonbob Really? You don't say.

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    Space Communists, what are you gonna do?

    Still nicer than almost all other factions. Eh, 40K.
     
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  13. Massgamer

    Massgamer Not too sore, are you?

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    Really enjoying how the Tau are being so open-minded about this in general and taking Paul's word as long as he gives good information.
     
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  14. Maxx Crowley

    Maxx Crowley I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    I suppose it would depend on whether Zoat likes the Tau or not. I mean, in comics, Luthor is the very definition of stupid evil. Doesn't matter what happens, what godlike abilities he somehow obtains, or new super tech he comes up with. He ALWAYS tries to kill Superman anyway.

    But, in WTR, Lex is a bit more of a sensible human being. A bit more.


    Wait...there are still people who haven't put Vaermina on ignore?
     
  15. lancelot

    lancelot Grand High Poobah

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    Seriously isn't that the first thing someone does when they go from SB, to SV, and then to QQ. Really putting that fucking idiot of a troll on ignore should be medical advice at this point. Guaranteed to lower your blood pressure when you don't have to deal with bad faith arguments, LIES, out right trolling, and ignoring counter points that complete shut down his bullshit.

    Rule ??: First things after signing up put Vaermina on ignore. Don't worry nothing of value will be lost.
     
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  16. Bramble Thorn

    Bramble Thorn Verified Silhouette

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    Well, aren't you an entitled, dismissive little asshat.

    Are Orc Infiltrators a thing that exists?
    Like Green Skinned Brutes mincing around on tiptoes loudly whispering to each other "NOW BE VERY VERY QUIET!" in Ork Speech?
    Or is it more like Malfean Stealth, where scaring and intimidating them so much they pretend they never saw you counts as a success?
     
  17. jaelin910

    jaelin910 habitual lurker

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    I put people on ignore when they make me angry and Vaermina doesn't really exceed exasperation as far as I'm concerned. I'm somewhat fascinated (and exasperated) to see what Vaermina will say next for much the same reason I've watched a couple of flat earth videos*; I'm not going to pretend someone doesn't exist just because they say stupid things.

    *and I don't mean these ones.
     
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  18. Chaoswind

    Chaoswind Lord of nonsense

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    There is an idea... Because this Paul is assimilating orcs and every time they respawn the orcs dump their memories on him...
     
  19. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    It's not so much 'the tau' as it is the handful of shellshocked individuals the SI has met so far, most of who know that he's the reason they weren't eaten by orks. No one he's met so far is senior enough to make policy decisions.
     
  20. Stsword

    Stsword Versed in the lewd.

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    No, not assimilate, consume.

    He doesn't have a lantern, so he eats demons to regain charge.

    An influx of energy that somehow formed a soul, which is a structure of energy.

    Zoat has the soul be like a body made out of energy.

    Two things, so far, differentiate souls in this story, structure and composition.

    New God apotheosis changes the structure of the soul so it can grow larger over time, like a reverse bonzai.

    Composition also affects souls, since Zoat made Blaze not a half demon but a 100% biological human with a soul made out of Hell energy, likewise Alan was undergoing a transformation into a Will Elemental from his ring leaking, which his soul naturally absorbed like a sponge.

    So Sybarite consumed demons, which provided energy, but what provided a shape for his soul?

    Now I might very well be wrong, but sans another explanation, the idea that Sybarite had a latent soul structure but just hadn't been exposed to enough energy to form that structure seems like the simplest explanation.

    Especially since the various Pauls keep going on about Earth-Prime not having magic (although Mysa Nal of Earth-Prime says hi).
     
  21. desolatedsabers

    desolatedsabers Know what you're doing yet?

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    ORKIE COMANDYS ARE VEWY STELFY. THEY PUHPUL. ALWAYS SNEKY, HOOMIES, SQUIDS, N ELVIES NEVA SEE EM.
     
  22. Simonbob

    Simonbob Really? You don't say.

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    Ork Kommandos, as I recall.

    Yes, stealthy orks are a thing. A silly thing, but so are orks.
     
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  23. Grimnar

    Grimnar Versed in the lewd.

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    When you dismiss the Tau as anything but fanatic military imperialists you deserve to be lol'ed at. They are explicitly a nation hopped up on their own juice, and snarling at the bit to take everything they can get their grubby mitts on.
     
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  24. Darko

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    Sybarite was said to be essentially like Satanus and Angelica, before her transformation, so his soul is just hell magic that behaves like a regular earth magic one.
    His biggest diffrence would be the composition, though yeah the structure also plays a big role, so he probably has similar avarice based powers like paragon, but instead of being just pure emotional manipulation it is more demonic in his case.

    Zoat can paragon manipulate the emotions of those around him even without his ring, no matter how small that manipulation is, like making them confess what they want?

    I know he can see the other colors, with or without the ring, but i was wondering if he could manipulate their avarice and desires without his ring?

    Can the paragon travel through the Honden of Avarice without his ring?

    Could all enlightened people manipulate the emotions of those around them without using a power ring, or any other such emotion manipulating device, or even magic, but simply by focusing and trying to stir whatever emotion they have become enlightened to in another person?

    If a New God were to become enlightened then would they be able to manipulate the light they have become enlightened to, like Stewart 50 can, making constructs and having the other powers that light provides without using a ring or any device?

    If a New God were to become enlightened even after they have some kind of Domain then would they lose their Domain, or become a god of their original Domain and whatever emotion they have become enlightened to?
    I think you said something about New Gods only being able to have one Domain, but that they could stretch it.

    Will Highfather have white quote marks in your story?
     
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  25. desolatedsabers

    desolatedsabers Know what you're doing yet?

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    sooo, do people forget that like, the imperium, an IMPERIALIST FANATICAL OGLIARCHY, has that entire system where your descendants can be punished for you failing to follow a command or something? like that book of the whatever the fuck, and the trials can go on long after the original people are dead. and servitors. and a whole bunch of other shit that every other faction has done, but when it's the imperium of man it's suddenly perfectly okay?
     
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  26. Chaoswind

    Chaoswind Lord of nonsense

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    I am thankful we are leaving warhammer behind and going back to the regular programming.
     
  27. Maxx Crowley

    Maxx Crowley I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    They paint themselves purple I believe.

    Because you've never seen a purple Ork.
     
  28. Hidden Variable

    Hidden Variable Know what you're doing yet?

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    Niether of the warhammer pauls are going to get a soul by traditional means. If they ever do get one it will be a complicated process likely involving high level spellcasters/psykers and possibly the help of a order-aligned god. As jury-rigging one like main Paul did out of available materials will either turn him into a chaos spawn or a daemon prince. That would probably be bad.
     
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    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Not to a significant degree. And always to a slight degree.
    At will? No.
    All people can do that, so yes.
    No, but the Source provides.
    I'm not sure that New Gods have the same psychological mechanism.
    Probably not.
    [​IMG]
     
  30. Darko

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    Thought that if Highhfather had white enlightenment then that's how he would get rid of the AL equation.

    Barda said that he will be getting rid of the Keys fragment.
     
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