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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. Darko

    Darko Connoisseur.

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    She may just go back to being a goddess of spring.

    Her relationship with Hades started when he showed up, told her that they were married and intimidated her, albeit unintentionally, and then he had sex with her where consent was extremely questionable, and even when he figured out that she didn't know about the arrangement he made with Zeus, he still chose to keep her instead of letting her go.

    Their relationship was built on incredibly unsteady and unstable grounds.

    It doesn't matter how much of a loving and devoted husband Hades is; what happened was wrong in a number of ways that a healthy romantic relationship between the two of them may never be a possibility and Persephone isn't required to make it work.
     
  2. DrThoth

    DrThoth I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Well this is basically the only negative thing from Hades's point of view that's come from his interactions with Paragon, though admittedly it's a big one. If Aphrodite (and I guess Hera) did their jobs properly, which Hephaestaean might be able to enforce, I feel like they could help smoothen things over and find him someone else. I kind of always thought Hades and Hel would be nice together, though maybe that would be seen as poaching too many Norse-related deities.

    Given the Japanese gods are kind of appearing more, Izanami might be available and not a bad political choice either, though admittedly she looks like a corpse and despite Hades's purview, it might not follow that he wouldn't have the instinctive revulsion. If Hephaestaean could help Akhlys though, maybe some cybernetics could be a wedding gift for her.

    Now if Hades is as bisexual as typical Classical gods, that could open up some other options too (all this assuming he wouldn't just want to be single, I guess).

    I hope Poison Ivy and Harley get together, they're kind of iconic as a couple for a reason, and I think it would be mutually productive- though I forget if the former used to be her patient or not, not that that's stopped other iterations of the characters if so.
     
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  3. Ngamer11

    Ngamer11 Experienced.

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    That was Kilowog; the two were sparring on Oa.
     
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  4. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Thank you, corrected.
    Why would Euanthe know anything about those?
    No, it's a telepresence system so that she doesn't violate the 'half the year in Erebos' agreement.
     
  5. Darko

    Darko Connoisseur.

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    Given Swamp Thing's closer relationship, it makes sense he'd have trouble, but maybe a relatively ordinary human wouldn't.

    That snd the cake thing.

    We'll never know.

    Yep, but gay men are less so.

    And in some comics her relationship with Harley seems to be more like a close friendship.

    Zoat did mention that most of her hatred was now directed at him.

    She may not be very close to Heph so she may not know how he'll react, especially after his transformation, but Paul is very close and knows Heph so he may be able to relay the message to Heph or tell her if it's even possible.

    If she can convince Paul then Paul could convince Heph, who may not be inclined to do it if he thinks it will displease the guy that runs the afterlife, or because Heph may have issues with what's essentially someone asking for a divorce from a guy that's fairly good to their spouse.

    It might remind him too much of Aphrodite.
     
  6. Darko

    Darko Connoisseur.

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    Though I think it was mentioned that he previously did that to Guy offscreen.
     
  7. Stsword

    Stsword Versed in the lewd.

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    He'd have needed Zeus's permission to divorce her.

    You know, the guy who arranged for the whole kidnap and rape thing in the first place for a chuckle as far as anyone can tell.

    So if Hades didn't try because he's keeping to some faint hope she'll change her mind, that would be an asshole move I totally agree, if however he didn't try because he knew Zeus would have never agreed, that's a horse of a different color.

    With the way Zoat has been writing Hades in this story, I bet it's more the latter than the former.
     
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  8. Darko

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    Good point, though I'm still convinced it may be the former.

    Though according to Heph, none of them could get divorces, so it may be the latter.

    And even if he couldn't get a divorce due to Zeus, he might have still let her leave Erebos when she wanted to instead of staying with him for months.

    Though that could gave also been Zeus making what he thought was a fair compromise.

    Still, even if her still staying was not fully the fault of Hades, she may still want her marriage to be over.
     
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  9. Grek

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    I mean, would she necessarily have to quit her current job? Hades seems like he would be chill about it.
     
  10. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    I suspect neither Euanthe nor Isley would approve of Alistar. They might use living plants rather than dead ones but those ‘natural habitats’ absolutely have been destroyed, or at least twisted into unrecognisability for the convenience of the people living there.

    He should add that to his business cards.

    "Good for you, why are you talking to me?"
     
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  12. _The_Bomb

    _The_Bomb Getting sticky.

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    Speaking of immensely powerful plant beings who want to change their relationship status with a man who is currently very happy with the current status quo….
     
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  13. Tzeentch

    Tzeentch I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Damn it, I was hoping Hades and Persephone wouldn't break. They always seemed to have a far more stable relationship than what the other Theoi had.
     
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  14. Dur'id the Druid

    Dur'id the Druid Know what you're doing yet?

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    To add to this, I thought she was originally a death god herself, a minor one that got pulled into Greek history and mythology. She has her own hidden cult. (In this video about 9 min in). And it's Demeter who is more against the marriage to Hades.

     
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  15. Rockinalice

    Rockinalice Versed in the lewd.

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    yeah but its not like you try to meet them part way so its equally you fault as well.

    are you serious Paul do that, i doubt it since he isn't a Balanced Lantern but an Orange so he will do what he feel is Smart not what actually is Smart.

    There are actually Metaphysical Reasons that she Has to stay in the Underworld for a Period of time, If this Version was never Dread Persephone, A Goddess of the Underworld Before Hades.

    Once you Eat Food of the Underworld or take in Part of the Underworld you can't Permanently leave it without most likely Major Metaphysical Surgery (if it's possible at all)
     
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  16. Bud-E

    Bud-E Stand up so I can push you down!

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    I'm a little surprised Euthane has a crush on Paul. I assumed her earlier attempts at complimenting his meat were her trying to be thankful for him freeing her and that she had a too inhuman mindset to want to date let alone have sex with anyone. Is she going to get mad when Paul explains he's not going to cheat on his girlfriend as every other Olympian would?
    Also, assuming Euthane's mindset is typical for nymphs how did any of them ever have children? Was it all rape by gods and satyrs?
     
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  17. Mr Zoat

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    Do you know how promiscuous trees are?
    Pretty unusual, as they're usually not meaty enough to bring a child to term.
     
  18. rdfox

    rdfox Know what you're doing yet?

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    And the fecal matter has officially hit the rotary forced ventilation device.

    Maybe we'll be lucky and she'd be willing to settle for a trial separation first, perhaps as a way to give Hades a chance to genuinely win her heart without her being permanently tied to him as a fallback position?

    Wrong Amazon. In this case, "amazonian" refers to the natives of the Amazon River valley and floodplain, not the residents of Themiscyra.
     
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  19. Darko

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    I think it was implied that the 'seeds' she supposedly took were a euphemism for Hades impregnating her, not that she ate food from there and can't leave.

    She's technically a dryad, not a nymph, and maybe they don't reproduce but are just spontaneously born.
     
  20. Radix

    Radix Not too sore, are you?

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    OL is semi-divine enough that it makes sense Eaunthe is interested in him. He is a hero in the classical sense who rescued her, which often led to marriages in greek myths.

    I can see Harley being a special case, abd obviously they havent really had time to form a relationship in this continuity. Sexuality does operate on a spectrum where you wouldnt be into most women, but could be into a specific woman.

    I would say the consensuality of Persephone's relationship isnt even questionable. She was raped flat out. She consented under the impression that Hades would force her, and when she realized he wouldnt, she refused completely. That is not consent.

    Paragon shouls help negotiate her divorce. It is the right thing to do. She is as much a victim as Eaunthe was.
     
  21. Impartial Panic

    Impartial Panic I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Remember when John told Paul not to look for him?
    It wasn't just a request it was a spell.
    John did make the Soul Tattoos so he probably put in a "back Door" in case he had to whammy paul.
    He's the kind of paranoid jerk who's seen some shit to put a contingency in like that.

    So now when paul puts effort into finding John he gets slapped with an interesting times effect.
     
  22. redleo37

    redleo37 Getting some practice in, huh?

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    Anyone else worried there might be other Baby Titans or Gods coming into existence in the Dreaming right now that some evil wizards or gods might want to use for their own power up like say Boss Smiley or Savitar (who from what I can tell wants to become a god or avatar of the Speed Force) or say who ever The Light gets to be their New Magic Specialist. Now admittedly we haven’t (to my memory) got any hints of another Titan being new or missing unless Rhea never did die and has been used to power up someone.
     
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  23. Radiant Knight

    Radiant Knight Phoenix Fire

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    OL really just needs to set his rings to warn him every five minutes to go look for John Constantine.
     
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  24. Vaermina

    Vaermina Well worn.

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    I find it kind of odd that LePaul has been allowed to pump up the Green so much.

    Because usually that would have resulted in a reaction from the other nine parliaments.
     
  25. Duke Long

    Duke Long Glomerulus

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    There are nine other parliaments? Damn, that’s a lot. I knew there were a fair few of them, but I didn’t realise it was that many.
    Was she? I absolutely agree that it was non-consensual (or rather, that consent was coerced), but does it count as rape if Hades thought she was fine with it? Genuinely curious about how that works.
    ‘whose’
    ’to’
     
  26. Vaermina

    Vaermina Well worn.

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    Yup, there's The Black, The Green, The Red, The Grey, The Clear, The White, The Flames, The Melt, The Metal, and The Divided.
     
  27. Stsword

    Stsword Versed in the lewd.

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    I figure we'll find out when we see if Hades contests the divorce or not.

    If he tries to stop it, then yeah he's a jerk who needs to let it go as Queen Elsa would say, if his reaction is more "Yeah, that's what I was expecting" than I think we can safely assume that Zeus was the roadblock.

    Swamp Things added an Elemental Kingdom of Stories, who showed up to offer Swampy an escape hatch from the upcoming Elemental War because Swampy is entertaining.

    Being dependent more on memetic space than physical space, they don't worry as much about physical real estate as much. If the Green dominated the Earth, as long as the new plant overlords tell stories they'd still be good.
     
  28. Duke Long

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    The Black seems like a bit of an odd one out, at least based on the wiki. The others are actual distinct things (though it’s a bit blurry for some, like The Clear) but the entirety of decay (which is apparently The Black’s domain) is encompassed by other parliaments.
     
  29. GhostKing 666

    GhostKing 666 Know what you're doing yet?

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    So, your saying that Euanthe didn't bother to ask the local plant life/spirits about what the Amazon's history was like? Or about why there are a bunch of relatively large spots of crazy good soil all along the Amazon river compared to the very shitty soil everywhere else?
     
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  30. Mr Zoat

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    How long do you think you would last under those circumstances?
    Thank you, corrected.
    The region's old gods don't have any real connection to the local people any longer, and the minor spirits don't have the mindset to be aware of the niceties of agricultural practice.
     
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