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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. Siskulous

    Siskulous Know what you're doing yet?

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    Of course not. After all, that's the first rule of the FAQ. And the second rule of the FAQ is "Nobody talks about the FAQ".

    At which point he will continue to insist that he is right despite having been irrefutably proven wrong. Honestly though I find that the forum is much less frustrating since the day I discovered I could ignore him.

    Just remember Mark Twain's advice on arguing when dealing with Vaermina and you'll be fine.
     
  2. Orabilis

    Orabilis Vidi, Vici, Veni

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    This is an interesting point.

    I don't agree with you but I understand why you think this way. I would rather say that Canon is an abyss, because if you subscribe to the belief that license holders get to dictate the "truth" of your favourite fictional universe then what of the original authorial intent? Interplay no longer exists despite being the original developers of Fallout and the creators of the majority of its themes and aesthetic.

    When it comes to a fictional universe as large as Fallout, whose voice is louder, Interplay or Bethesda? Should Zoat bend over backwards to appeal to Bethesda's version of the truth? I know that he won't because his intent is to write a good story not to be perfectly accurate to a wiki, one thing must come first.

    It's unkind and immature to attack the person rather than the argument. If you disagree with them why not try to either construct an opposing argument or not insult them. I don't agree with Vaermina and I am not invested enough in this to get into a drawn out discussion/argument but I think people should try to be either kind or courteous especially when it costs them nothing. Its one of Paul's better traits.

    p.s. I recommend reading the linked essay, it provoked some thoughts of mine and perhaps it will provoke some of yours.
     
  3. ForeverShogo

    ForeverShogo Know what you're doing yet?

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    Good thing I pointed out that both the original and the new license holders consider Tactics to be non-canon then.

    I don't even hate Tactics. I just don't get why people insist on treating it as canon when it would blatantly conflict with the canon of almost every other Fallout game.

    The Brotherhood would be THE unquestionable super power of the North American continent if Tactics were canon. But any time they've ever been mentioned in 3 or beyond, it's been said that they disappeared. That they couldn't be found.

    Like, how the hell did the Legion even expand up through Colorado to include Denver in their domain if a Brotherhood that controlled the Midwest and the Calculator for 70+ years was a thing?

    But maybe at some later date Bethesda will change their mind. It's not like they haven't done stupid shit before. Like Billy the Fridge Boy. Or Fallout 76. Still shake my head at the utter ridiculousness of that West Virginian Brotherhood.
     
  4. Gantradies

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    what- why?!?!?
    the Courier's a wastelander-he/she's on the Enclave's "to horribly murder" list by default- i mean they were canonically even butchering "un-mutated" vault-dwellers- was this a version of the courier who Doc Mitchel fucked up the emergency brain surgery on? >.<

    also, Vae, again (jokes aside, you're on a roll man- i know im on of the ones usually quick to snark atcha when you jump to conclusions, but you've had some good points recently!), has another good point about Fallout Tactics- the game's explicitly in apocryphal territory, not uncanoned- neither confirmed or denied- there WERE a group of BOS separatists who headed out that way via airships (the prototypes/predecessors to the one built by raping/razing rivet city for the reactor in 4), but its considered fairly unlikely they they reached full army status/essentially built an empire/nation like they did in the game-

    given the dubious nature/canonity of Vault zero (as it contradicts the social experiments intended to gather data for Slowboat colony ships thing that got derailed by VT hiring psychopaths who went off-mission) there's a decent chance they're "just" surviving/ dealing with the issues with SM's and the beastlords instead of fighting a robot war- after all, their reason for the split was being more sane/less insular about recruiting-so there's a decent chance they're chugging along with a decent, if small support base....
     
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  5. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    If you're playing Reform, they don't do that any more. Or rather, they usually don't. There's a tree where you can decide what your species policy is. The left branch has you treat wastelanders as second class citizens, while the right branch has you accept wastelanders, and even ghouls and super mutants if you want. Suffice to say a lot of your people don't like the idea all that much and you have to take some penalties first.

    But if you're playing Douglas 'if they'd wanted slavery they'd have voted for Anderson' Granite, you always go right. Because that's the sort of person that you are.

    [​IMG]

    President Frank Anderson of the Purist faction on the other hand has focuses for coring territory by committing mass murder.

    Plus, it's perfectly possible that Courier 6 is an Enclave officer.
     
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  6. ForeverShogo

    ForeverShogo Know what you're doing yet?

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    The Enclave ending of that mod bugs me so much, because it just railroads you into becoming The Courier in a way I find to be entirely too implausible.

    Also, when I do a Reformist run in Enclave Reborn . . . I've honestly never accepted Ghouls or Super Mutants. Like, I can believe that they'd change their minds on regular Wastelanders. But the leap to accepting Ghouls and Super Mutants always felt like too much of a stretch to me. Not even (most) Wastelanders like them.

    ===

    Though it's not too weird for their to be an Enclave willing to recruit Wastelanders. Colonel Autumn was willing to do so, and his arguments with Eden over the use of Modified FEV are what ultimately triggered his revolt.

    For reference, he just wanted to use control over a clean water supply to force Wastelanders to submit to Enclave authority. Though he did still plan on killing any Ghouls or Super Mutants, and making Wastelanders submit to genetic screening tests to make sure they weren't too fucked up.
     
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  7. desolatedsabers

    desolatedsabers Getting sticky.

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    i mean the enclave doesn't like ghouls, but i'm gonna point you to frank horrigan and the other super mutants they made when they were spelunking in mariposa. also, the whole events of tactics potentially didn't happen and the only confirmed report is that some brotherhood scrubs built airships and screwed off to chicago. and the less said about the ps2 game the better.

    a-nyway from what i remember, area 51 was said to have a lot of alien tech lining it's halls. maybe not as much as the mothership zeta ship, but still enough that you could potentially build a jury rigged piece meal lantern. but you'd be better served turning all of the tech into ways to make food n stuff, make yourself an actual reliable nest egg instead of wasting it on a power battery, matter creation not withstanding.
     
  8. TheMidnightRook

    TheMidnightRook Not too sore, are you?

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    As I believe has already been pointed out, none of the versions of the SI has anything like the technical skills or knowledge required to build a personal lantern.
     
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  9. desolatedsabers

    desolatedsabers Getting sticky.

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    's a fair point, but he might've still had some charge left over to bullshit some stuff. and it wouldn't be a good idea at the time in the first place cause it'd be better off making a "geck" effect on the area. i mean what's he gonna find in space? zetans?
     
  10. Vaermina

    Vaermina I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    bobsimmo Simmr001 on SV/SB

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    References as in "midwest brotherhood are around" or "behold the empire of steel!" Because theirs a difference.
     
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  12. Old Knife

    Old Knife Getting sticky.

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    Or he just decided that area 51 was sufficient for his needs and he shouldn't be wasting ring charge when all sorts of alien tech was leagues better than everything else available.

    Or he just ran out of charge early because he wasn't as efficient as a fully trained lantern Paul would be.
     
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  13. Gantradies

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    i think the former, from memory- to be fair, the reason i give their survival (if the airships being downed wasn't an instant "everybody dies" scenario) into the present,
    even with the legion present, a decent chance, is they were entirely formed of the least stupid/most pragmatic members of the entire brotherhood at their point of exile in all but name-until tactics starts going sideways into stuff that doesn't thematically match the setting part/midway thorough, their situation/starting point is pretty believable- the BOS's crippling weakness has always been their cultish nature/obsession with secrecy/inbreeding-

    and the entire reason they were kicked out was the lot of them spoke up about this being..kind of foolish given the growing number of organized, military threats that were popping up where "a handful of dudes with Power Armour and Lasers/Plasma weapons" weren't an "instant win against any number of opponents"button anymore

    lets be honest- by the time of FO3, there's a pretty good chance a good chunk of the "traditionalist" brother/sisters have...
    issues with an alarming lack of forks in their respective family trees due to sheer pressure/lack of new blood- when you consider inbreeding as a factor, the Mohave Brotherhood's near-total suicide-By-NCR/eli's insanity makes a hilarious amount of sense-the latest few generations of elders were probably halfway around the bend at birth- look at some of the more.....erratic European nobility before they caught onto the inbreeding issues/were force to stop by outright lethal complications like hemophilia....

    - honestly, given they'd have had a fair bit of lead-time on everyone's favorite Neo-barbarian hypocrite to setup, i could set them holding a small/moderate territory (assuming they were helping local militia arm with second-tier/ less complicated weaponry and Armour, as well as recruiting)given that the majority of the legion has football pads and lawnmower blades-

    their PA (probably even their "conventional" combat Armour, tbf)and DEW's would probably be getting a little worn,and they'd be pretty dependent on less-trained/equipped recruits to make up numbers (though the Legion pretense COULD potentially work in their favor-they'd be doubtlessly seen as a more palatable option as allies/protectors then Sallow's mob of murderous tribals by anyone who wasn't stupid/a drugged-up raider who wasn't being held at gunpoint- even a, by our standards, somewhat harsh protectorate arrangement/tribute requirement would be better then having your Brahmen raped and your women stolen by -them-),
    but if they were able to establish even a moderate foothold/manufacturing capability.....
     
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  14. Vaermina

    Vaermina I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    You seem to be forgetting that there were different endings to Tactics, and most of them didn't result in "an empire of steel".
     
  15. desolatedsabers

    desolatedsabers Getting sticky.

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    let's all just accept the fact that, for starters, the empire of steel never happened, and vault 0 probably collapsed into a burning heap of rubble. also, fella's, keep in mind that that snippet is two years before new vegas.

    EDIT: also the empire of steel was basically guaranteed to happen by the end game, with the only thing cementing a full hold being merging with the calculator. Also if we're taking apocrypha as "it happened" then mothership zeta would still be around, and random encounters like riddick, the alien ships, the time travel, all of that would be canon too, which'd be really silly.
     
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  16. Mquz

    Mquz Versed in the lewd.

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    It was a major dlc in Fallout 3, making it not apocrypha, and was mentioned in this chapter, so Zeta and alien ships are clearly canon. It’s a little silly, but it makes some sense. They were at one point planning to have Area 51 be in Fallout 2, and it’s mentioned in the Fallout 1 alien ship encounter, so all the alien stuff is definetely canon. Aliens are still around at the time of Fallout 4, with one crash landing half-way through the game, despite the mothership being destroyed.
     
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  17. desolatedsabers

    desolatedsabers Getting sticky.

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    okay while most of your point is completely true, from what i and a lot of other people are able to tell mothership zeta is mostly just a fanwank DLC kind of thing. it doesn't happen, or if it does then there's no way it ended the same way it did, otherwise a lot of other stuff would make no sense power scaling wise. for instance, the lone wanderer would likely share the alien tech with the brotherhood because friendship or something. the alien stuff has always been mostly a joke/random encounter because it's mostly for gameplay purposes like weapons, and a bit of fluff. a crashed alien ship was only in new vegas if you had wild wasteland as a trait as well. it's not meant to be canon, just a fun little jaunt that gives you some cool stuff.

    The area 51 thing is true though, and if it did go through then aliens would probably be in the actual canon, but different from how they were in MSZ. mostly cause them starting the great war is a complete fucking cop out.
     
  18. bobsimmo

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    I played 3, 4 NV and some console game for xbox that I never finished with Boob tube lady and dumb haircut dude.

    You cant forget what you never played.
     
  19. Brian_Fiction

    Brian_Fiction Terribly Lost

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    You're right to say that it's unkind, and I contest the immature part because yelling at people you don't like is an all time favorite past time that people of all stripes indulge in, but the reason I didn't construct an argument is because I have no interest in arguing with Vaermina. Put simply, the only reason I made a comment at all is to make myself feel better because going so long without expressing my dislike was trying my patience.
     
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    Mr Zoat

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    Mid-summer, 2279
    A little later


    One of the soldiers lowers the rear flap and I step out of the back of the truck into a temporary campsite. A couple of squads are working on digging a trench and using the soil to create a short sandbag wall just behind it, and they're sweating buckets as a result. I'll have someone come over with fresh water later; all of the good sources around here are already controlled by the tribe and they're probably trying to avoid contact where possible.

    Goris hops down after me, his tail somehow staying concealed by his robe. I got a brief flash of his feet, but that was because I knew exactly what to look for. Any of the NCR people who happened to notice would probably write it off as unusual footwear. As for his size? The most obvious explanation is that he's a Super Mutant, and that he's either trained very well or he retained his intelligence during the change. Like magic, 'intelligent deathclaws' are something the people of the NCR regard as a myth.

    Sergeant Mitchell is already striding off towards a man in a suit whom I presume to be Ambassador Granger. The Ambassador's tough-looking bodyguards are already sizing me and Goris up as potential threats, so I make a point of showing my empty hands once again. After all, it's just a professional thing for them, rather than an indication of active hostility. The Ambassador himself turns as the sergeant approaches, glances at me and Goris for exactly a second, and then gives the sergeant his full attention. A few moments later he nods and then makes his way towards a canvas-covered area and takes a seat at a desk there before motioning for me to be brought forward.

    A fairly basic intimidation technique from a man sitting in the middle of my tribe's territory. I've made a point of telling my tribe's emissaries not to do things like this.

    The sergeant beckons us forward, so Goris and I amble unhurriedly in the Ambassador's direction, looking around as we do so. Goris is a keen student of human behaviour and he's given me some useful lessons on the subject. The men and women doing the digging are younger than most of the other soldiers, at least based on what I can see. And their uniform appears to be less armoured, though I suppose that could just be because they're not being deployed in a combat role at the moment. The people who appear to be their NCOs are… Watching them more than joining in. Are they a penal unit? That doesn't seem.. likely

    The rows of tents are neat, the structure I assume to be the latrine is set up and… Oh, a genuine armoured APC. Those are far rarer to find in good working condition than the more common trucks they're using to transport their soldiers. Does the Ambassador rate one, or are they using it for a mobile arms locker? The NCR's rifles are.. a bit basic, but the very fact that they can produce their own firearms in their own foundries is actually quite impressive. That's one of the things I genuinely respect about Shady Sands; it's not a small part of a pre-war settlement trying to bring itself back from the brink of death. It's genuinely new, a farming town founded after the war which made good.

    Sergeant Mitchell nods to me at us as we approach the desk. "Mister Ambassador, this is Krono and his associate Goris."

    Mr Granger nods. "Gentlemen, good morning. My name is Phillip Granger, and I represent the New California Republic. I'm here to discuss your people's accession to the NCR. The NCR plans for expansion in this region include us taking possession of the old US military base at Groom Lake. Obviously, any of your people living there will have-"

    "Hm-hm."

    "-to leave. We can help you with your resettlement, and there are a number of public work-."

    "Mister Granger, I realise that in a negotiation that it's a common tactic to open with a strong demand and let yourself be negotiated down, but… Please."

    "Mister Krono, you're within driving distance of the largest army in America. The NCR will take this area. We'd rather do it with your cooperation but it is going to happen."

    "Ambassador Granger, the largest army in America is currently sitting on the east bank of the Colorado River and is facing the second largest army on the west. And I don't believe for a moment that General Oliver will allow you to move more than a token force just to pick a fight with some tribals. But." I raise my hands a little. "We would be delighted to have more contact with the New California Republic. The whole philosophy I've been espousing-."

    "And what philosophy is that?"

    "Transhumanism."

    His face hardens, his eyes flicking to Goris for a moment. "If you're using FEV, General Oliver probably will give me the men I'd need to overrun this place."

    "No, we're not using FEV. FEV wasn't developed at Area Fifty One. I've never so much as seen a sample." Though I would like to study it. If only to try to help Goris out. "But when I arrived, I was able to help the rest of the tribe gain access to the highest security areas which the survivors of the Great War put into full lockdown before they pulled out. I think they may have ended up joining the Enclave…" I shrug.

    "Oh yeah? And what's in there? Plasma guns? Power armour?"

    "In addition to the more conventional military research programs that were carried out there by the pre-war government, Area Fifty One was also the US's centre for zetan research." He looks a little lost. "Aliens."

    "Hah! Aliens!" He shakes his head. "Look, I know that some of the stuff the old government had in there was pretty advanced to a tribal-. And if your people know their way around the place, maybe it's worth keeping you on in some capacity. But there's no way that any of that stuff came from another planet."

    When I first… Vanished from Earth Prime and appeared here, I desperately looked for a way to recharge the ring. Finding nothing in the blasted world below me I started looking for something else that would give me the power I needed to survive, and maybe make something of the situation. Which is why I came here: the largest cache of nonhuman technology combined with a local population who might be prepared to negotiate with me. The way things actually played out… It could have gone better, but it could have gone a lot worse.

    "The pre-war reports stored on the base's terminals suggest otherwise, but if you like I can give you a demonstration."

    "A demonstration of aliens?" He sits back, his eyebrows raised. "Excuse me if I'm a little sceptical."

    "No, we don't have any-" Living. "-aliens. I mean the abilities their technology gives us."

    "By all means."

    I focus my telekinetic grip and lift him into the air, his hands grabbing for the desk and his eyes widening!

    "Holy cheeses!"

    I carefully set him back down while remaining motionless, trying not to further antagonise the NCR soldiers who are pointing their guns at my head. "After I defeated the Cult of Whispers, I cracked the command codes of an alien device which the pre-war researchers called the neurotropic initiator. It was damaged -which is probably what drove the Whisperers mad in the first place- and I repaired it before testing the device upon myself." Ambassador Granger struggles to get himself back under control. "Not everyone in the tribe has chosen to use it since then, but a good few have."

    "Okay, that's, ah." He makes a downwards motion with his right hand and the soldiers reluctantly lower their guns. "Certainly.. interesting. But that doesn't prove that it's alien. Pre-war science made all kinds of crazy discoveries."

    "As I said, I took control of the alien computer systems. All of the records that were stored at Area Fifty One are at our disposal, and the aliens' technology seems to respond well to-" **-mental contact.**

    That gets a blink, but I suppose that simple telepathy is less immediately concerning than the ability to throw people around.

    "Including their repair and fabrication guides."

    "You're telling me that you know how to make this 'alien' technology?"

    "Some things. Most of what the pre-war military acquired came from small alien craft which they shot down. There are still large holes in our knowledge. One of the things we are very eager to trade for is further examples of zetan technology."

    "And what's the worth to you?"

    "We are happy to take NCR citizens as students, grant them similar abilities and teach them how to use them. These can be soldiers, or your own researchers."

    "If we get researchers clued up, why wouldn't we just keep anything we find elsewhere to ourselves?"

    I shrug. "We will have more experts for the foreseeable future. You won't have many, and it wouldn't be efficient for them to be split between multiple sites. And if you're serious about us becoming a county in the NCR, the best way to make that happen is to cooperate. Deliberately withholding anything important will strongly alienate my tribe."

    He nods. "No pun intended."

    "Quite."

    "And the situation with Caesar's Legion?"

    "They're a blight on the wasteland. We can't offer you a great deal in the short term, but I think you'll be interested in what we have."

    "Which is?"

    The fully repaired zetan fighter floating above us drops its stealth field.
     
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  21. Travisplo

    Travisplo Dapper Necromonsieur, a fine undead gentleman

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    thebishop8 Umm, ackchyually...

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    I wonder if the universes without a Jade are being ignored by Time Trapper Paul and Red Queen Jade?
     
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    Handlewithcare Not too sore, are you?

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    Okay, I'll admit that is a different situation.

    I am now very interested in this side-verse, I hope we'll see Para-Paul bring civilisation back to live in the Wasteland
     
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    Vaermina I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    IFV's are a dime a dozen on the east coast.

    No, he's within driving distance of the fifth or sixth largest army in America.

    Well it's confirmed, Paul mind fucked himself and is now unknowingly a puppet of the Old One's.

    That would be scary, if those things weren't basically made of tinfoil.
     
  25. Ancalador

    Ancalador Getting sticky.

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    What makes you think there isn't a Jade just waiting to be one of the people sent from the NCR to be upgraded.
     
  26. Chojin Patriarch

    Chojin Patriarch Veteran Lurker, Rookie Proofreader

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    Heh. They have no idea what's in store, do they?

    The interesting thing is if their intelligence breeds true. It'd be tricky finding mates for them, but the result would be something amazing.

    Already underestimating the 'primitive tribals', eh? Ah, the schadenfreude will be grand.

    More likely they're the FNGs, freshly recruited from the last tribe 'acceded' into the NCR...

    And it's a rare thing in this era, from what I understand. What with the raiders, wandering monsters and passing Protagonists with 100 Thievery...

    A strong start, but entirely the wrong tack to take here.

    Honestly, that's the kind of insulting opening that would send the tribal ambassador stamping off declaring war on the 'arrogant outsider'...

    I suspect the Ambassador is in for a bad time...

    From the context, I take it 'FEV' is very much hated by the 'pure' human factions...

    "Oh, yes, plenty of that. But that's nothing compared to the real good stuff."

    I take it the stuff dates back to Roswell, perhaps?

    A solid counter to arguments about why you didn't go somewhere else.

    Brace for awesome. Malteasers or Popcorn at the ready.

    What would be the holiest of cheeses? Gouda? Swiss?:V

    Still trying to rationalise, eh?

    Even in this universe, Paul is rocking the telepathy. Nice.

    Oh, now you've got him interested.

    And now he's willing to play nice, eh? Quite the 180° from his initial offer.

    I'm sure they're welcome to. I doubt they'd be shown the good stuff until they can be trusted...

    :eek: Oh, gods, I didn't even notice that...

    Not pleasant, from what little I know.

    "O-Okay... You have my undivided attention..."

    And that, Kids, is how you make a grown man soil himself in amazement. I suspect the NCR will be very willing to play nice now... I'm guessing that's part of the Mod's tech tree, eh?
     
  27. Silverias

    Silverias Making the rounds.

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    ...Area 51 is nowhere near the east coast.

    Organized, properly fielded militaries? The two that get referenced in the update are likely the largest.

    You have absolutely no reason to think that. Normal Psionics exist in the fallout setting.

    Why are you like this?
     
  28. Dakkan Sall

    Dakkan Sall Making the rounds.

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    "doing" rather than "going" I think
     
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    Razorfloss Getting sticky.

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    Well that's one way to make a statement GOT DAMN. And what a statement it is talk about a butterfly. So is this verse Jade going to be a tribal from another clan or an ncr spy/assassin sent to make sure that everything is on the up and up

    Edit: Will the psionics breed true or is it tech based only
     
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    desolatedsabers Getting sticky.

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    the "Tin foil fighters" are still dangerous enough to blow the shit out of a truck with it's laser. plus one of the bigguns apparently had the potential to laser a giant hole into the landscape. sooo, while smaller, i'd still be pretty wary of the space ship, even if their pilots suck at flying. also, psionics are very much a normal thing, like the master purposefully made them and everything. you meet them in mariposa, some show up in 2, and there's the forecaster in new vegas. all have psionics and can see the future without needing zetan tech. but sil does bring a point, why you like that though.
     
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