With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

He told a lie in order to have Malvolio be less likely to dislike Barry for what he did.

 

What's the truth? Why did Barry kill the Sheeda Queen?

 

Dark Knights of Steel came out in 2022, Paragon shouldn't know any comics past 2013.

Also pretty sure she's Bisexual there.

 

Hey, villains with dumber gimmicks have become big threats before.

Ohoh, yeah.

I'm reminded of a one shot I once read about a group that protects superheroes without their knowledge.

Basically in that story we follow a bunch of secret agents as they're trying to protect the wife of the Superman expy.

A mind controlling villains enthralls a guy to kill her in a way that can casually bypass the hyper advanced security her home has.

The protection detail stops the person by killing him, but in the end it turns out that these guys aren't the local SHIELD expy, they're the local HYDRA expy.

They're protecting the loved ones of the heroes since if the heroes go bad due to grief then there's nothing stopping them from killing everyone, including the bad guys, so the bad guys have a vested interest in the superheroes being happy.

The author even stated that them killing the mind control victim should have been a clue, since the SHIELD expy would have just captured him and only resorted to lethal measures if there's no other option, while the HYDRA expy would immediately resort to murder.

Yeah, he showed up in the Renegade timeline before Sheeda Land.

Paul kinda fibbed there to make Varry look more sympathetic.

Yep.

He may not have seen things in a slow time like way, but he still spent weeks seeing gruesome and horrible things done to innocents, and to have the person behind all that just walk away with the equivalent to a slap on the wrist made him snap.

 

Yes, because the SI's name is 'Paul', and he said it with his mouth full of delicious fried food. The missing 'P' becomes ' and the "s are there because he's speaking.

 

I think Flash misses his old rogues.

 

Huh, makes me think, is barry now less mad at Paul for killing?

 

He hasn't got that far in his reflecting process yet.

 

When was that?

 

It happened in Episode 66: Resurrectionists. Paul went to find Thana and came across an Amazon who wished to bear Paul's child.

 

I think she primarily wanted to just fuck him, but I could be wrong.

 

Makes me wonder how much Amazon homonormativity owes to the aversion to reproduction and children (tying them to the dissolution of the community and thus state) for the reasons Hippolyta first outlined with the whittle baby phenomenon- arguably an inversion of heteronormativity in other places where reproduction and children and the whole (nuclear) family ideal are an essential aspect of community and thus state, with alternate sexualities being in 'conflict' with that.
Actually, post-Klarion and post-Sheeda, I imagine that population-boosting is a big state concern in multiple governments, even with their currently reduced capabilities as they rebuild.

 

Nice to hear that he's doing so well.

More like you're too big.

Sweet.

Yeah, the values of a nation and society can shift pretty rapidly in a fairly short amount of time.

Can't win them all.

'your own'

And I'm king of the universe.

Good, you have to call out Paul in his bullshit.

It's the only way he can learn.

He's not good at learning things, what with being fairly slow, but he can still do it.

Just be persistent.

Though you used it far longer than a few minutes.

Basically White.

'requires'

And Dr. Mist may be able to make a White one.

'Zamarons'

'to his left ring'

So you find it difficult to actually generate the symbols of the other colors?

'use it for'

Just don't do it if it's black or red.

 

I'm a little surprised that Paul would share info on the White Light with anyone, especially with someone who's more loyal to someone/something else like Paran Dul.

Paul already demonstrated it, when he was helping Sephtian in turning the Star Sapphire in to the Staff of Love. He found that making the sigil actually created a link to the plane of love, causing his construct to destabilize.

 

Is this meant to be 'not one' or just a slightly odd turn of phrase?

 

He might think it's safe since the Thanagarians don't have a means of accessing any of he Lights, so he loses nothing from telling her.

 

Well some people have apparently been themselves with a black ring.

Osiris summoned lightning to destroy his ring rather than serve Nekron, zombie Johnny Quick just had father-daughter bonding time, and Black Lantern Anti-Monitor still thought Nekron was an asshole, if memory serves.

Edit: So Black Lantern Paul's free will actually has more precedent than sane orange lantern. Although the Solomon Grundy storyline implies that the black lantern ring and a vampire's possessing demon would in fact get along like a house on fire. But I can't say I blame Zoat for not writing a self insert that is basically Angelus with a black lantern ring. Because you know, gross.

 

I only remember Ghia'ta lending her ring to Paul, not Dame Carol Ferris. Did this happen offscreen?

 

the fuck she gonna do

give this info to her home world and let them know that White Light exist

it not like any one using it to be worry about it

heck, they don't even know the White Entity is a thing

 

Thank you, corrected.

No, I think that works.

Thank you, corrected.

 

An Orange Lantern is never too big. Nor is he too small; he's precisely as large as he wants to be.

 

Ghia'ta is technically Earth's Violet Lantern seeing as she's living there and using a Violet Ring.

 

But right afterwards he said he gave the apprentice of Earth's Violet Lantern his ring to use, which is what happened to Ghia'ta.

As such, that should say: "A Violet Lantern who's staying on my homeworld let me use her ring for a few minutes, and I in turn gave her an orange ring for her own use."

 

That seems like a rather dangerous assumption given Sinestro spanked Paragon the last time they met.

 

Sinestro hasn't shown up yet. The closest we got was a possible hologram/recording talking to a prospective Sinestro Corpsman. Also, that resulted in Paul and his students wrecking several Spider Guild worlds, so I'd consider that a positive for Paul.

 

This chapter gave me shivers. The deep ringlore! (Well, at least in universe)

 

Paul casually shaking someone's wirld view are always my favourite parts

I also love the philosophical progress his students made. Not many stories manage to make personal growth so interesting and story-relevant

 

Unfortunately, events caused him to backslide, in the comics. Hooray for editorial mandates and/or writers wanting to play around with the status quo in the name of nostalgia...

Spoiler: Commentary spoilered for length

So, he's basically having a mid-life crisis. Hopefully it turns out better than it did in the comics, where he ends up dying to Tim Drake's father while assassinating him... And then he got brought back to life after Blackest Night. Man can not catch a break, huh?

At least they've stayed on task. An impressive show of discipline.

Something you don't often see with big guys in films: dealing with things scaled for conventional people. Even the Avengers movies cheaped out a little buy having the Endgame 'professor' Hulk being smaller than most of his previous forms.

Making quite a good show of his progression towards Enlightenment. Perhaps someday, he'll be the next Illustres.

Because you think they're the right thing to want, or because you honestly want them for yourself?

Ah, she's still struggling with that question herself, I see.

It's all right to say some Greenies are stubborn dickheads, you know.

Heh, testing to see if he can overcome that natural submissiveness to authority, huh?

Perspective is a wonderful thing, when you can keep a hold of it.

You're almost there, Onik.

Getting warmer.

Understating it a little, but technically, for her, it was only a few minutes. Never mind him having a cross-parallel adventure lasting a couple of days...

Well done. All he's missing is the last piece of logic.

It's not like they're exclusive, you know. Dul could probably rock a Red Ring, if she didn't have one with the whole 'replace your heart' gimmick.

Oh-ho, breaking his silence about a certain colour, is he?

Not unprecedented in the comics, even if it was during the Post-Flashpoint era.

Still thinking too limited, Missy. What happens when multiple wavelengths of light combine, hmm?

And of course the most perceptive one sees to the heart of it.

Pfft. They barely manage with one light. Can you imagine them trying to handle all seven?

...Just out of curiosity, of course, eh? Not like this will help your bosses with anything.

He could build the hardware, but when it comes to the energy needed...

No doubt Sinestro is making plans about expanding, though, as we saw earlier.

Though others have said it, I'll repeat it: Creating the sigil of a colour is enough to touch that light. It's how that magician on Earth (Dark Druid, was it?) was able to make zombies using the Black Sigil. And now I'm picturing the White Light Entity going 'Hmm? Oh? Eh.' in its' sleep inside Earth.

Exaggerating a little for obfuscation, eh? After all, White Light is supposedly easy to use. It's just hard to keep it on task. Because unlike the other lights, it has its own intentions.

Still hoping he manages to get her her own Blue Ring one day.

More checking in, I see. At least he remembered he had students apprentices interns I-don't-even-know. As for improved skills, I suspect they'll be more efficient in their consumption of ring charge, if nothing else. Whether their constructs are stronger as well as cheaper, remains to be seen... Wonder where he'll be wandering off to next, then.

 

Arguing that Paragon got spanked by Sinestro's answering machine instead of Sinestro himself doesn't really help the case here...