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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

I haven't made a firm decision.
I think for this setting it's likely more interesting if he's stuck in low power mode but that effectively leaves with a maltusian AI and access to and alien tech base he can exploit. If I remember the reptiloids are extremely slow to advance their tech and Paul with just the ring AI could absolutely break the setting.
 
I think for this setting it's likely more interesting if he's stuck in low power mode but that effectively leaves with a maltusian AI and access to and alien tech base he can exploit. If I remember the reptiloids are extremely slow to advance their tech and Paul with just the ring AI could absolutely break the setting.
He thinks about it later. A power ring isn't as useful as you might think for things you actually want to do.
 
Does this version of Paul have a way to recharge his ring and is just hiding it?
If you mean 'is he using his ring for launch' I think he's just really looking forward to the demo's effect on Blood et. al.

This is like the dozenth time you've used this phrase in my memory of the thread.
please stop, the deja vu is nauseating me.
Oh, shush, he can stop using the reference when it stops being funny.
 
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If you mean 'is he using his ring for launch' I think he's just really looking forward to the demo's effect on Blood et. al.


Oh, shush, he can stop using the reference when it stops being funny.

Nnno, I was wondering why Paul hadn't simply built a base on the moon or was showing off the rings abilities or something as a show of power. "Hey, Blood, pull my finger" is him clearly making a point, and this version of Paul is clearly putting England to the fore. If it was me in his position I'd have built a port or base on the moon to go along with the demonstration of overwhelming strength to show both the stick and the carrot. "We can do this, but wouldn't it be better if we were pals?"

However, with that said, Zoat and I think very differently and I assume he has reasons for this sort of thing I don't know about. That SuperBrit!Paul can't regularly recharge his ring, or is stuck with a trickle charge, would explain why he's not showing off. Or maybe he's just hiding what he can do, I'm only guessing.
 
Can someone tell the arc?… threadmark? names of the Transformers, Marvel, and My Little Pony parts?

I found a chapter or two of them in the Story Only thread and liked them, but finding anything is a bitch with how long that thing is.
 
Can someone tell the arc?… threadmark? names of the Transformers, Marvel, and My Little Pony parts?

I found a chapter or two of them in the Story Only thread and liked them, but finding anything is a bitch with how long that thing is.

They're just kind of thrown in randomly and not actually at any particular part.
 
I mean, outside of the Story Only thead, what are their arc names? Like how the current arc is "Diplomacy" and the last was "Negotiations".

Again, they're not organized in any way, they're just spaced randomly throughout the story. You're asking for something that doesn't exist.
 
In the first post of this thread there is a link to a post under Spoiler: Omake Index called List of Minor SI variants. It was last updated 19 June 2021, so it doesn't contain the Stargate ones yet since they started 1 February 2024. I would be unsurprised to find that there are readers of this fic who have their own indexes, but I don't know of any current public ones. The TV Tropes one and the Wiki linked on the first post don't appear to contain the sort of index you're looking for. You can search specific threads as a QQ member for keywords though. I might eventually post one, but I haven't gotten around to putting one together. If you can remember chapter titles you can also just open the threadmarks list and do a wordsearch there.

For convenience, here is guide to the Stargate ones I've found:
Starring (part 1) to Starring (part 22) all can be found under the heading of Episode 145: Unreal on the third post of this thread. The next time I'm aware of them coming back up are in chapters Starbate (part 1) to Starbate (part 4), all of which are in Episode 151: Working Relationship.

The Transformers ones:
Start in Episode 120: Krummkreuz with Plus Two (part 1) and Plus Two (part 2)
Continued in Episode 128: Feasibility Study with Transformed (part 1) to Transformed (part 7)
Continued in Episode 145: Unreal with Transformational (part 1) to Transformational (part 4)
Continued in Episode 148: Codominion with Meet The Eye (part 1) to Meet The Eye (part 12)
Continued in Episode 149: Equity with Equity (part 3) and Equity (part 8). The titling convention of this section is different because of the crossover nature of the episode. You can get an idea in the index by going off of the year the chapter takes place in. The Transformers ones are the ones in 2014.

For completeness-sake, here are links to all of the posts for both that I found behind spoilers with the dates and Episodes as given in the index. Please let me know if I missed any or if you have other corrections.

Episode 145: Unreal
14th August 2013
Starring (part 1)
Starring (part 2)
Starring (part 3)
27th August 2013
Starring (part 4)
Starring (part 5)
Ten Years Later
Starring (part 6)
Three Years Later
Starring (part 7)
Starring (part 8)
Two Months Later
Starring (part 9)
Two Seasons Later
Starring (part 10)
Three Days Later
Starring (part 11)
Starring (part 12)
About a Month Later
Starring (part 13)
Starring (part 14)
Starring (part 15)
9th October 1999
Starring (part 16)
Starring (part 17)
Starring (part 18)
Starring (part 19)
Starring (part 20)
11 October 1999
Starring (part 21)
Starring (part 22)

Episode 151: Working Relationship
3rd November 1999
Starbate (part 1)
5th November 1999
Starbate (part 2)
12th November 1999
Starbate (part 3)
Starbate (part 4)

Here is what I found.
 
Negotiations (part 12) New
6th August 2013
16:02 GMT -5


My-.

My friends amble through the Hub City construction zone, taking in the sights. I doubt that it's anything that they haven't all seen in their own home cities, but the heavy use of both genomorphs and fabricators are novel. Their costumes get a puzzled look from the workers and locals, but then they see me and assume that I'm giving some of my peers a tour.

Wallace contemplates a group of bricklayers as they assemble an exterior wall. "Do they..? All have the worm thing inside 'em?"

"Answering that would involve revealing private medical information." Eight pairs of eyes turn to regard me sceptically. "I mean, obviously I know-. It's not compulsory."

"Free healthcare in the U.S.?" Richard smirks at Wallace before tilting his head back, looking upwards at the upper levels of the completed buildings. "Would you be surprised?"

"Ah, yeah, actually." He looks at me. "You got one?"

I shake my head. "My ring would just kill it."

"Because it's not part of your self-concept, right." He looks curiously at Richard. "You..? Didn't..?"

"Doesn't work so good my regeneration. Arte?"

Artemis shakes her head. "Mom got one, but…" She shrugs. "I've got the same problem you do. And it would freak Kid out." She looks down the line to her sister. "Cheshire?"

Jade doesn't look at me. "I wasn't offered one."

"You told me how you feel about equipment you can't test yourself. And I offered to give you your choice of superpowers. There are health-improvement spells that you could have bound to your skin if you want; these were intended to be mass-producible, not highest quality."

Now she looks at me. "But these can be taken out. I wouldn't even call them superpowers."

Ah… "Alright, I apologise. Do you want one? There's usually a line at the clinic, but I'm sure I can get you priority treatment."

"I'm not sure. I haven't had a chance to test the equipment myself."

She stays straight-faced, but I grin and-. Don't hug her, because we're all here in costume and I know she gets professional when professionally dressed.

Kaldur looks mildly puzzled. "I am curious as to why you selected Hub City to improve."

"I couldn't make it worse than it already was. Aaand because no one else was going to."

Wallace nods. "So no one was gunna complain if you did something crazy."

"Yes."

"Captain Cold hasn't committed a crime since you started talking to him. The other Rogues are actually kinda bummed out about it."

"Mirror Master turned me down. Though if we ever do another exercise like the last one he's giving me a fifteen percent discount."

Wallace nods. "I don't think any of the rest are gunna straighten out either. But at least it's some kinda progress. Hey Rob."

Richard shrugs. "Clayface went straight. Kinda."

Artemis frowns. "Oh yeah, the… Clay guy. What happened with him?"

"Well… STAR Labs helped him with meditation exercises while they were… Trying to work out how he works. He learned how to keep looking like himself, but as far as actually turning him human again…" He shrugs. "They don't really have any idea."

Kaldur bows his head. "It is not easy to study magic without using magic."

"So Clayface just… Left. Since they weren't gunna be able to fix him, he didn't see any point hanging around."

M'gann blinks. "Does that invalidate his pardon?"

Richard shakes his head. "Clayface didn't get a pardon. That was way before the Anti-Life broadcast. He got a prison sentence that he could serve in a lab because of what happened to him. There's a warrant out for his arrest right now." He looks away for a moment. "Thing is? He did actually help out in a few places. When Batman and Mister Atom started putting together what actually happened, we got reports of Justifiers getting beaten up by giant dirt hammers that come out of nowhere, and a couple of recordings of him changing shape. So he's technically not in line for a pardon because he didn't work with the League, but no one's actually trying to carry out an arrest."

Kon lowers the brochure he's been reading. "Farming equipment."

I nod. "Highest priority. Machinery left abandoned in the weather without maintenance gets damaged. And… Ah. What do you know about 'Right to Repair'?"

"I, ah…" He tries to work out how to tell me that he knows exactly what I'm talking about without mentioning the Kents. "Spent some time in Kansas. It's a big deal in farming communities."

Richard nods. "I knew the Equipment Repairs Act got passed in June. I hadn't really thought about what it meant for existing equipment."

Wallace looks mildly annoyed. "And for the rest of us?"

"Manufacturing companies sometimes engage in… Practices designed to make it prohibitively hard to repair their equipment, either to encourage people to buy replacements, or to force them to use authorised repair shops at elevated prices. Sometimes they even design products with unique components that no one else makes just to make it harder. Like a.. unique computer interface for car control computers that you have to buy from them to fix your own car."

"Oh!" M'gann nods. "Like when your phone needs a specific charger."

"Yes. There's no practical reason not to have a standard design, but they use bespoke designs so that you'll have to pay them for replacements. Or there's times when farmers get penalised with invalidated warranties if they use a mechanic not registered with the manufacturer… Anyway, I forwarded a report to Mister Atom when I started doing this, and that's where the Bill… And similar Bills in every country I've got a portal in, came from, because we kind of need to repair stuff and half the companies involved don't exist any more and a lot of the people they approved aren't around any more and a lot of the people who did the approving aren't around any more either. I basically stole the blueprints and got the government to approve it post-facto."

Richard shrugs. "Well, if we're not arresting Clayface, I guess we can give you a pass."

"Thank you, I appreciate your forbearance. So, ah… How are your cities doing?"

Wallace looks away for a moment. "Ah… Could be better? Blacksmith-"

"Amunet Black-. Sorry."

"-took-. Do you serious still do that?"

"Demonstrably, yes."

He stares at me for a moment, then shakes his head. "She took over, but she kept tight control of everything so there wasn't much widespread damage. Once the roads got cleared, everything started… Not… Getting back to normal, exactly, but… I think we actually had it worse when the Sheeda attacked."

Richard nods. "Batwoman's coordinating Gotham's reconstruction. The crime rate is lower than it's ever been. Doesn't stop the crazies, but… Batwoman's a bit more willing to inflict lasting injuries than Batman was. Killer Croc…"

He looks pointedly at me.

"Waylon Jones."

"Actually surrendered without a fight. He said it takes too long for his teeth to regrow, and he doesn't want to spend a month eating soup."

Kaldur nods. "Atlantis has mostly recovered from the brief reign of Queen Gamemnae. Much of the damage was more social than physical or arcane. Some wounds still linger, but they will fade in time."

Artemis shrugs. "Star City's okay. Not great, but okay. Stuff fell apart, but people are actually being a lot nicer to each other."

I smile. "Good show! So I guess we're about ready for the next disaster, then."

They all stare at me, and then Artemis shoves me into a wall.
 
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he not wrong

you can in fact kinda set your clock to the weekly/monthly/yearly disaster in DC/Marvel

it just a thing
 
6th August 2013
16:02 GMT -5


My-.

My friends amble through the Hub City construction zone, taking in the sights. I doubt that it's anything that they haven't all seen in their own home cities, but the heavy use of both genomorphs and fabricators are novel. Their costumes get a puzzled look from the workers and locals, but then they see me and assume that I'm giving some of my peers a tour.
Ironically, that sort of thing is probably becoming more common, with vigilantes going out or criminals with powers. So i understand the caution, especially if the Team have been out of the spotlight or changing their costumes recently.

Wallace contemplates a group of bricklayers as they assemble an exterior wall. "Do they..? All have the worm thing inside 'em?"

"Answering that would involve revealing private medical information." Eight pairs of eyes turn to regard me sceptically. "I mean, obviously I know-. It's not compulsory."
But it would be a safe bet to say yes. Especially given that he's offering it for free.

"Free healthcare in the U.S.?" Richard smirks at Wallace before tilting his head back, looking upwards at the upper levels of the completed buildings. "Would you be surprised?"

"Ah, yeah, actually." He looks at me. "You got one?"
Honestly, being beholden to keep the world recognisable is one of the drawbacks of the Big Two. Sadly, they can't actually utilise all that super-science because status quo.

I shake my head. "My ring would just kill it."

"Because it's not part of your self-concept, right." He looks curiously at Richard. "You..? Didn't..?"

"Doesn't work so good my regeneration. Arte?"
Danner Formula for the win. I mean, higher metabolic requirements and dietary needs, but still, having basic superpowers is hard to beat.

Artemis shakes her head. "Mom got one, but…" She shrugs. "I've got the same problem you do. And it would freak Kid out." She looks down the line to her sister. "Cheshire?"

Jade doesn't look at me. "I wasn't offered one."
I take it she's in her local costume, not her Darkstar gear (at least on the surface.) Or at least trying to make it look like super-heroic uniforms rather than alien power-armour... Though there's a lot of crossover in those realms.

"You told me how you feel about equipment you can't test yourself. And I offered to give you your choice of superpowers. There are health-improvement spells that you could have bound to your skin if you want; these were intended to be mass-producible, not highest quality."
I suspect she's wary of the 'permanent modification' aspect to things like that.

Now she looks at me. "But these can be taken out. I wouldn't even call them superpowers."

Ah… "Alright, I apologise. Do you want one? There's usually a line at the clinic, but I'm sure I can get you priority treatment."
Perks of being the owner's girlfriend.

"I'm not sure. I haven't had a chance to test the equipment myself."

She stays straight-faced, but I grin and-. Don't hug her, because we're all here in costume and I know she gets professional when professionally dressed.
Although she probably fills out said costume quite nicely. Probably getting a few appreciative looks from nearby workers.

Kaldur looks mildly puzzled. "I am curious as to why you selected Hub City to improve."

"I couldn't make it worse than it already was. Aaand because no one else was going to."
I mean, he's not wrong. Hub City could become a whole new town at this rate, even renaming it, and no-one would object.

Wallace nods. "So no one was gunna complain if you did something crazy."

"Yes."
Hell, the town's own spirit is probably behind the project, like a cancer patient in remission.

"Captain Cold hasn't committed a crime since you started talking to him. The other Rogues are actually kinda bummed out about it."

"Mirror Master turned me down. Though if we ever do another exercise like the last one he's giving me a fifteen percent discount."
Telling. Mercenaries usually don't do 'frequent mayhem discounts' like that. He must like you.

Wallace nods. "I don't think any of the rest are gunna straighten out either. But at least it's some kinda progress. Hey Rob."

Richard shrugs. "Clayface went straight. Kinda."
I suppose if he could keep things stable, he'd make one hell of an actor. Again. Wouldn't even needs specialised makeup for quirky roles.

Artemis frowns. "Oh yeah, the… Clay guy. What happened with him?"

"Well… STAR Labs helped him with meditation exercises while they were… Trying to work out how he works. He learned how to keep looking like himself, but as far as actually turning him human again…" He shrugs. "They don't really have any idea."
And to be fair to him, as useful as being living clay is, it isn't being human again. Especially since he was altered without his explicit consent - More tricked into it as a cure for terminal cancer by Talia.

Kaldur bows his head. "It is not easy to study magic without using magic."

"So Clayface just… Left. Since they weren't gunna be able to fix him, he didn't see any point hanging around."

M'gann blinks. "Does that invalidate his pardon?"
Even if he did backslide, it would be damn hard to find him if he wasn't using his powers openly.

Richard shakes his head. "Clayface didn't get a pardon. That was way before the Anti-Life broadcast. He got a prison sentence that he could serve in a lab because of what happened to him. There's a warrant out for his arrest right now." He looks away for a moment. "Thing is? He did actually help out in a few places. When Batman and Mister Atom started putting together what actually happened, we got reports of Justifiers getting beaten up by giant dirt hammers that come out of nowhere, and a couple of recordings of him changing shape. So he's technically not in line for a pardon because he didn't work with the League, but no one's actually trying to carry out an arrest."
And there have been periods in the comics when at least one Clayface was a nominal 'hero' working with Batman. Post-Flashpoint, I know, but...

Kon lowers the brochure he's been reading. "Farming equipment."

I nod. "Highest priority. Machinery left abandoned in the weather without maintenance gets damaged. And… Ah. What do you know about 'Right to Repair'?"
It's been a thorn in the side of corporate tricks for years, for a start.

"I, ah…" He tries to work out how to tell me that he knows exactly what I'm talking about without mentioning the Kents. "Spent some time in Kansas. It's a big deal in farming communities."

Richard nods. "I knew the Equipment Repairs Act got passed in June. I hadn't really thought about what it meant for existing equipment."

Wallace looks mildly annoyed. "And for the rest of us?"
Figures that it takes a global catastrophe to get that sort of thing in place.

"Manufacturing companies sometimes engage in… Practices designed to make it prohibitively hard to repair their equipment, either to encourage people to buy replacements, or to force them to use authorised repair shops at elevated prices. Sometimes they even design products with unique components that no one else makes just to make it harder. Like a.. unique computer interface for car control computers that you have to buy from them to fix your own car."
And said companies hate proposals like the one that they passed in this fic. Though talking about it can sometimes thread the minefield of Rule 8, sadly... 😒

"Oh!" M'gann nods. "Like when your phone needs a specific charger."

"Yes. There's no practical reason not to have a standard design, but they use bespoke designs so that you'll have to pay them for replacements. Or there's times when farmers get penalised with invalidated warranties if they use a mechanic not registered with the manufacturer… Anyway, I forwarded a report to Mister Atom when I started doing this, and that's where the Bill… And similar Bills in every country I've got a portal in, came from, because we kind of need to repair stuff and half the companies involved don't exist any more and a lot of the people they approved aren't around any more and a lot of the people who did the approving aren't around any more either. I basically stole the blueprints and got the government to approve it post-facto."
How handy. And even those that still remain operating are being brought in line, from the sounds of it.

Richard shrugs. "Well, if we're not arresting Clayface, I guess we can give you a pass."

"Thank you, I appreciate your forbearance. So, ah… How are your cities doing?"
I don't really expect them to be making policies with the city government at their age. Still...

Wallace looks away for a moment. "Ah… Could be better? Blacksmith-"

"Amunet Black-. Sorry."
Surprised she hasn't been approached about the serum that gives her her powers. Especially since she stole it from the person who made it... and modified it.

"-took-. Do you serious still do that?"

"Demonstrably, yes."
And really, his reasons are good. No point playing games with some of the people they have to fight and lock up, especially those who are career criminals or flat-out psychopaths.

He stares at me for a moment, then shakes his head. "She took over, but she kept tight control of everything so there wasn't much widespread damage. Once the roads got cleared, everything started… Not… Getting back to normal, exactly, but… I think we actually had it worse when the Sheeda attacked."
Wonder if she retreated to the shadows again when the event ended, or if she managed to earn herself a pardon by allying with the League?

Richard nods. "Batwoman's coordinating Gotham's reconstruction. The crime rate is lower than it's ever been. Doesn't stop the crazies, but… Batwoman's a bit more willing to inflict lasting injuries than Batman was. Killer Croc…"

He looks pointedly at me.
As in outright crippling people rather than simply breaking bones? At least Batman did pull his punches where he could.

"Waylon Jones."

"Actually surrendered without a fight. He said it takes too long for his teeth to regrow, and he doesn't want to spend a month eating soup."
Such a mundane concern, but given that he started out as a thug-slash-carnival performer with a skin condition...

Kaldur nods. "Atlantis has mostly recovered from the brief reign of Queen Gamemnae. Much of the damage was more social than physical or arcane. Some wounds still linger, but they will fade in time."

Artemis shrugs. "Star City's okay. Not great, but okay. Stuff fell apart, but people are actually being a lot nicer to each other."
It always was one of the nicer hero home-towns in DC.

I smile. "Good show! So I guess we're about ready for the next disaster, then."

They all stare at me, and then Artemis shoves me into a wall.
Not a word, OL, you earned that.

To be fair to OL, he's not wrong. 🤔 Earth does seem to face large-scale problems with almost clockwork regularity. "Oh, an alien invasion? Must be a summer Event crossover." At least it's more spread out here, rather than the seemingly weekly disasters given the modern glacial pacing of comic-book time. Where a six-issue storyline can occur in a single night...
 
There's no practical reason not to have a standard design,
Not actually true, there are in fact practical reasons for the different charger port designs.

The most obvious is innovation.

Enforced standards would have meant we'd never have moved past USB-Micro B, and USB-Micro B just straight up sucks compared to USB-C.
 

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