With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

My first instinct was also Deadshot. The one eye covered by hair fits the sniper angle from a character design standpoint.

I haven’t the foggiest about the second image.

 

Well "Agent Slade," but yeah, the cartoon does seem to have some anime influence. The S Shield is effectively a temporary power up ala Dragon Ball for example.

You'll have to wait for the Suicide Squad Isekai for full on DC anime though.

Leslie Willis aka Livewire.

Instead of a professionally obnoxious radio shock jock she's a mercenary thief, so yeah, an in name only adaptation.

 

Can I just say I'm really enjoying this arc and want to see more of the Nabu Grayven team up?

 

Well, people already said the answers. But even if they hadn't, I couldn't answer the question in good faith because I'd already seen the first two episodes and already knew who they were.

 

Deathstroke and Livewire?

 

Did you cheat? If not, how the heck did you tell?

 

Deathstroke was easy because of the white hair covering one of his eyes. That and the colors of his outfit scream ‘Deathstroke’. Plus what is clearly Amanda Waller in the background made me certain.

Livewire I guessed mainly because of the shitty haircut reminded me of her and the generally unpleasant vibe from her. IIRC, she was already kind of a bitch before becoming a supervillain.

 

I feel like you arrived at the right answers through the wrong methods there.

That Deathstroke, for example, looks more like a pretty boy agent of A.R.G.U.S or Checkmate, and isn't usually associated with Amanda Waller.

And I can't see how you equate that Livewire, or where do you see the resemblance, with this:

Spoiler

 

'shoves'

Naturally.

Seeing as they live in a world where mind control is a thing, it's possible that there are laws that allow victims of it to not be held accountable for their actions during their enslavement, so they may be able to avoid sanctions.

 

What do you think this is, the 2010s? I mean, they can tweak the characters somewhat from the voice actors in ways that don't matter (and will then have to apologize in 10 years if it turns out that whatever they tweaked is a new representational thing), but I'm okay looking at this cast list and making the default assumption that they chose voice actors to match the characters or vice versa.

(Okay, Supergirl is an outlier, but I assume the rule is that anyone can play white vanilla characters.)

 

I'm told my brain goes through weird pathways to arrive at the same conclusions as everyone else.

My thought process was 'if they're already giving Lois Lane a pixie cut and tan-skin, then just generally assume that the other redesigns are going to only be vaguely similar or not at all or evocative of modern weeb design sensibilities'.

While I have not actually seen the show, it does help that I knew Deathstroke and Livewire were already in it via osmosis beforehand. I just didn't know what they looked like.

 

Thank you, corrected.

I spent five minutes staring at that, wondering what the correction was.

 

Accents exist. You can have someone with the wrong accent fake it, and the difference between a Korean-American accent and a Japanese-, Taiwanese-, or Mainland-city-Chinese-American accent will be pretty subtle even for an Asian-American to pick up, but it's there. Why fake it?

 

Deathstroke is obvious. That was my first guess and I rejected it as "not changed enough", he still looks basically the same and I was assuming that they'd have to be a big difference to annoy purists. It does help that Waller is in the background and he's looking like a strategist for approximately-suicide-squad, but that's obviously Deathstroke.

 

Huh. I actually really like that Harley design. Feels really upbeat, which is exactly what I'd want from an anime version of her.

 

Is this a recent thing? Because I can't remember comic Deathstroke ever working for or with Waller.

 

Not sure if there was a previous instance of it happening in some other media, though it's not that weird that a highly skilled soldier with ties to a super soldier program would work for a group where Waller was present.

I'm not sure if this Slade is a super soldier or if he's even called Deathstroke since this show is about Superman's early forays in superheroics, so even some villains may lack some of their comic characteristics like names, powers or personalities at the beginning and only develop them at a later time as the show progresses.

It's not the first time a show would change some things from the comics.

Heck, they sometimes have to change it since the original may not make sense to use in the new piece of work.

They might even change in the same medium.

In Marvel they have changed who abducted Tony Stark from communists to, criminal groups, to Middle Eastern terrorists because as some of those groups fell apart it wouldn't make much sense to use them anymore.

There's also what year Captain America was thawed out changing etc.

 

Yes, barely.

Deathstroke was a member of the Suicide Squad for one issue in 2014, he quit at the end of the issue.

 

If you play yourself is not even acting, is just being yourself.

 

Not necessarily.

Actors have played fictionalized versions of themselves that don't have much of their real personality.

One of the episodes of the new Always Sunny season had Aaran Paul play himself as very Dennis-like and being a psychological/emotional abuser towards Bryan Cranston.

Plus animators can make their creations look like the voice actor, but not be like them.

 

Am I missing why Nabu had to become a helmet when he became a Lord of Order and Klarion got to be a real boy when he became Lord of Chaos?

 

Nabu may have thought that having a body was disorderly.

The flesh craves things that can lead to actions that may be considered chaoticand he wanted to be purely orderly and got rid of it.

 

I was going to correct this to "navel gazing". (Okay, no, I wasn't; I wouldn't have thought it worth highlighting a correction for a non-story post.)

Then I realized we're looking at a ship metaphor. Very well, you may have your naval gazing.

It's not necessarily even THAT subtle. Distinguishing between the various Chinese accents is a bit subtle for the uninitiated, and distinguishing between Japanese and Korean likewise, but distinguishing between Chinese and Japanese or Korean isn't particularly hard.

 

So what is going on is Nabu addicted to having a physical body and won't admit it or something else?

 

he was addicted to it, but couldn’t have that and order OP power without dying, and he wanted both, so dream magic with Ahriman. Now that he was forced to confront it he says he’ll help kill Ahriman then isolate himself to get over his perverse need to breath and touch things

 

It probably doesn't have anything to do with becoming a lord of order per se.

In YJ (which Zoat isn't using), the transformation was apparently done post mortem.

In the comics, Nabu switched to the helmet after his body was worn out after thousands of years of use.

So Klarion had a healthy body when he made the switch, and Nabu probably did not.

 

Not entirely certain what happened to that sentence.

Edit:I thought he stored the yellow ring and lantern in his rings subspace, which he can't access without wearing the orange ring.

 

a bit confused after "but" - maybe delete "they did that"

 

Quoted for posterity's sake.

So this is also your fault.